Also noteworthy that not only are PS5 sales behind PS4, but the PlayStation’s competition has almost entirely disappeared, and that hasn’t resulted in more PlayStations sold.

    • @Oneser@lemm.ee
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      System based exclusives meaning you might not be able to play a game you want to in the future, expensive subscriptiona needed to play online, push to digital DRM controlled games… it’s almost like consoles killed themselves?

      • @fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Well the alternative is PC gaming, and building a competitive PC aint cheap. I remember on launch people were building computers with similar performance to the xbone/ps4. But now that entry level dGPUs aren’t a thing, and even mid range GPUs are expensive you get fucked either way.

        The PS5 is at least powerful on launch. The 4 was on par with like a regular APU.

        • @frezik@midwest.social
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          If you’re not too stuck on modern AAA titles, PC gaming is cheap. Possibly the cost of the electricity coming out of the wall.

        • @ampersandrew@lemmy.worldOP
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          I think more and more people have done the math on what your break-even is with a PC up front compared to noncompetitive digital console storefronts, needless forced obsolescence, and subscription fees.

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            Entry can exceed the cost of the console but if you upgrade your existing one, especially using used gpus it is dirt cheap.

            Now factor in:

            • pc games online stores are cheaper, there are more opportunities for good deals. Usually 5-10 eur off a game.
            • you are not an idiot who pays for the internet twice, 80 eur a year. -pc game stores have better deals as console ones usually refuse to let the price down for a looong time since they have no competition
            • you are sonys bitch by owning a ps5 and you are not elegible for any refunds. Saving you tons of money since every pc game store lets you refund for any reason within a time window.

            and even a pc double the cost of a ps5 will be cheaper very quickly. Consoles are designed to catch people with no long term thinking.

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          Mini pcs are a thing and they get better every year.

      • @SolidShake@lemmy.world
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        I haven’t payed to play online in years. Like mid PS4 life. Online only games don’t require a subscription.

    • Oniononon
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      318 days ago

      Its not ps5, its ps4 pro pro. They’re the same console and Im tired of pretending otherwise.

    • @DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
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      This is going to piss off some people, but I knew this generation was in trouble when HellDivers became big.

      That game isn’t hot garbage, per se, but the fact that it got the success it did is a pretty damning indictment of the state of multiplayer shooters.

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    PS4 was when xbox users switched over to PlayStation.

    PS5 was when PS4 users users switched back to the roots, a PC.

      • @Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
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        And the more people do the same the less console exclusives there will be (outside of the Nintendo ecosystem)

        • @frezik@midwest.social
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          And this coming release will be the first time I’m not going to bother about a new Nintendo console going back to the original. For context, I even like the Virtual Boy. Nintendo has done everything possible to make themselves unlikable.

        • @MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world
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          Yeah, the hardest thing is really going to be GTA6. The reason I bought a PS4 was GTA5. Needing to wait 2 years to play GTA6 on PC will be a tough thing to swing.

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            Just remember that GTAV’s performance on PS3/Xbox360 is about how well GTAVI is likely going to run on PS5/Xbox Series X.

            We’ve got a few years until the PC release as PS6 is coming.

    • Omega
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      This headline would imply that PS4 users are upgrading to PS5 at almost the same rate that they upgraded or moved to the PS4.

      Honestly, it’s pretty surprising considering the PS4 is still kind of a current console. I’d think a lot of people would be satisfied staying with the PS4 and still getting most of the games that are coming out.

    • @frezik@midwest.social
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      I always said that about the PS2, or early model PS3s if you can get one for a reasonable price. Backwards compatibility galore.

  • Kinokoloko
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    This is the first console generation where I bought and sold a console before the next gen came along. I got one of those PS5 emails while they were still somewhat limited, and decided to jump on it like a dumbass. Two years later, sold it to recoup the cost of my Steam Deck. The only real exclusive it has that I played was the Demon’s Souls remake, and that just wasn’t enough to convince me to keep it around. Looks like the other exclusives I have missed out on since then is…(checks notes)…Astro Bot…and that’s it. Oh well.

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    Im amazed its selling so well considering its pointless.

    • @Ushmel@lemmy.world
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      Does playstation still dominate international sales? I remember that being a thing for previous generations