Also noteworthy that not only are PS5 sales behind PS4, but the PlayStation’s competition has almost entirely disappeared, and that hasn’t resulted in more PlayStations sold.

    • @Oneser@lemm.ee
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      4220 days ago

      System based exclusives meaning you might not be able to play a game you want to in the future, expensive subscriptiona needed to play online, push to digital DRM controlled games… it’s almost like consoles killed themselves?

      • @fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        820 days ago

        Well the alternative is PC gaming, and building a competitive PC aint cheap. I remember on launch people were building computers with similar performance to the xbone/ps4. But now that entry level dGPUs aren’t a thing, and even mid range GPUs are expensive you get fucked either way.

        The PS5 is at least powerful on launch. The 4 was on par with like a regular APU.

        • @frezik@midwest.social
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          420 days ago

          If you’re not too stuck on modern AAA titles, PC gaming is cheap. Possibly the cost of the electricity coming out of the wall.

        • @ampersandrew@lemmy.worldOP
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          320 days ago

          I think more and more people have done the math on what your break-even is with a PC up front compared to noncompetitive digital console storefronts, needless forced obsolescence, and subscription fees.

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            Entry can exceed the cost of the console but if you upgrade your existing one, especially using used gpus it is dirt cheap.

            Now factor in:

            • pc games online stores are cheaper, there are more opportunities for good deals. Usually 5-10 eur off a game.
            • you are not an idiot who pays for the internet twice, 80 eur a year. -pc game stores have better deals as console ones usually refuse to let the price down for a looong time since they have no competition
            • you are sonys bitch by owning a ps5 and you are not elegible for any refunds. Saving you tons of money since every pc game store lets you refund for any reason within a time window.

            and even a pc double the cost of a ps5 will be cheaper very quickly. Consoles are designed to catch people with no long term thinking.

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          019 days ago

          Mini pcs are a thing and they get better every year.

      • @SolidShake@lemmy.world
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        220 days ago

        I haven’t payed to play online in years. Like mid PS4 life. Online only games don’t require a subscription.

    • Oniononon
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      319 days ago

      Its not ps5, its ps4 pro pro. They’re the same console and Im tired of pretending otherwise.

    • @DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
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      119 days ago

      This is going to piss off some people, but I knew this generation was in trouble when HellDivers became big.

      That game isn’t hot garbage, per se, but the fact that it got the success it did is a pretty damning indictment of the state of multiplayer shooters.