“I’ve been warned not to talk about it,” the woman wrote, before revealing snippets of the day she says she was arrested for publishing gay erotica.
“I’ll never forget it - being escorted to the car in full view, enduring the humiliation of stripping naked for examination in front of strangers, putting on a vest for photos, sitting in the chair, shaking with fear, my heart pounding.”
The handle, Pingping Anan Yongfu, is among at least 8 in recent months which have shared accounts on Chinese social media platform Weibo of being arrested for publishing gay erotic fiction. As authors recounted their experiences, dozens of lawyers offered pro bono help.
At least 30 writers, nearly all of them women in their 20s, have been arrested across the country since February, a lawyer defending one told the BBC. Many are out on bail or awaiting trial, but some are still in custody. Another lawyer told the BBC that many more contributors were summoned for questioning.
Yea… porn in illegal in China, erotic stories is just “word-porn” basically, this is nothing new.
This is what conservatism does. Same in China, same in the Deep South of the US (the only reason why porn is still legal-ish in the south is because of the first amendment, but the constitution is being eroded so that might not last long)
Conservatism is a disease that many countries still have. Take a look at this map:
Porn being legal is mostly only a thing in the “western world”.
Even if China has a liberal democracy like in the west, people would still elect conservatives. See democratic countries like: India, South Korea, Ukraine, Phillippines, Malaysia, they all made porn illegal despite being democratic.
I’m cisgender and probably straight (or asexual not sure tbh), but if I was trans or gay, my parents would’ve disowned me for being “mentally ill” and gave me zero inheritance. I mean, even currently with depression, my parents are already thinking about leaving me out of the will for being a “useless eater”, imagine if I was LGBT. For context, parents are from Mainland, PRC, currently we’re in the US, they are conservstives that just thinks everyone who’s is depressed is either “faking it” or crazy psychopaths and/or “useless eaters”. I hate my life.
Antarctica
Data unavailableWhy am I reminded of one old comic? It went like this:
(Scientists on an Antarctic base)
Scientist 1: (Finishes talking about something normal)
Scientist 2: (Disheveled and visibly unhinged) “Well none of that shit matters. Do you know what happened to my stack of Playboy magazines?”
Scientist 1: (Now also suddenly disheveled and visibly unhinged, whips out a knife) “They’re mine now!”
Scientist 2: (Also whips out a knife) “Oh yeah?”
Scientist 1: “Yeah! What are you gonna do about it?”
(Altercation ensues)What “broad restrictions” is NZ and Australia under?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_laws_by_region#Australia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_laws_by_region#New_Zealand
Basically a lot of fetishes/kinks deemed “weird” by the government
Everything on the NZ list is illegal pretty much anywhere in the world though.
No golden showers for the Auzzies though.
You know this is bad when even Hexbear isn’t defending it. https://hexbear.net/post/5403841
LGBT rights are human rights, everywhere.
All the posts I read were defending or excusing it.
Applying nuance and researching more context instead of jerking off while grunting “china bad authoritarianism” isnt defending or excusing. You’re just annoyed they dont join your circlejerk.
I read all the comments, there was no research, just saying “It’s pedos for sure”.
Can’t expect much from .world with such things.
And you can expect better from a .ml?
You’re siding with a tankie over an anarchist here btw.
Really? I see 95% of the comments saying it’s China fucking up and they don’t like it.
Most upvoted comment: Attacking the source - Defending
2nd: No proof, but it’s serious so people wouldn’t lie - Benefit of the Doubt
3rd: “Rare China L” - Criticizing
4th: Attacking source, attacking extent - Defending
5th: “If it is happening it’s probably because of taxes or some legit reason” - Defending
6th: “Making porn is illegal” - Defending
7th: “The whole thing smells a little fishy” - Defending
8th: Attacking source, ‘not inclined to believe it’ - Defending
9th: An author in another country wrote some pedophilic, this is probably the same - Defending
10th: Boo - Criticizing
11th: ‘porn struggle session’ - Unknown what way the comment leans.
12th: A quote from another article - Looks Criticizing
13th and least upvoted: “Hexbear users claim to unconditionally support queer rights and then try to run defence for this shit.” - Criticizing
Defending: 7
Critic: 4 (maybe +2)Where are you getting 95% from?
This will eventually be the U.S. if we don’t stop the erosion. Right now they are going after trans, brown people. They will turn attention after to others.
Which is funny because I think most conservative and religious politicians are actually into gay sex.
But .ml communities promise meChina has mote free speech than the West! How is this possible?
/s
You don’t even have to be charged with anything before ICE grabs you off the street and throws you in a van in the US…
Which is true for China as well
Yeah, unfortunately the US is becoming more and more like China in this regard.
Yes it’s fucking horrible, I have the misfortune of living in the US but the same goes for China, North Korea, Russia and I could go on.
Very typical .ml whataboutism. Both things can be bad at the same time. This is not a null sum game.
They’re on .world, how is this .ml Whataboutism to call out that both countries are horrid to their citizens?
And I assume you wish the US to keep doing that because China is doing that and it’s clearly working?
I’m simply responding to the commenter’s comparison to “the west”. Like, if that’s the game we’re gonna play I think I just scored a point. Both situations are obviously terrible duh
Very USA-Centric of you lol
USA =/= “The West”
Also useless whataboutism. The sign of someone who has no arguments left to defend their beliefs.
The US is part of the west. If it happens in the US, it happens in the west, because the US is in the west.
Move the goalpost much? The US is in “the west” and they consistently set the tone and run the show. Welcome to geopolitics hope you enjoy your stay!
Can you connect these dots for me?
Nah.
To be clear, writing and posting erotica isn’t illegal, its profiting off it that was illegal, which is still fucked, but less of a free speech issue.
It’s really only a matter of degrees as you can sell other things for a profit so why not your literature?
Correct. But at the same time, once you understand your speech is limited by your reach, which is determined by how big of a megaphone the capitalists will let you have, it becomes more murky. You can say whatever you want in America, and if the government doesnt like it, you will be silenced and ignored. The same applies in China, but there is a greater record of the government actually listening, though often to the worst groups, such as nimbys protesting the expansion of the Shangai maglev and assholes protesting even limited lockdowns in the city with the most covid that keeps infecting the rest of the country.
Che Guevara, from Desalinas PFP, was also rather homophonic. I wouldn’t make it a point of purity testing. People in the past did things according to their time (not saying its justified).
The .ml crew has enought to criticize today. Big part them being a different flavor of impiralism
Che Guevara, from Desalinas PFP, was also rather homophonic
Which other word did he sound like?
Wdym?
This isn’t a purity test. This is me making fun of the tankies on .ml
These authors are being accused of breaking China’s pornography law for “producing and distributing obscene material”. Writers who earn a profit could be jailed for more than 10 years.
The law targets “explicit descriptions of gay sex or other sexual perversions”.
Jesus I thought there might have been some bullshit pretense, but apparently it’s just straight-up illegal there.
Ah yes, this is the democracy some people talk about
Democracies can also ban porn. See: South Korea, India, Ukraine, Malaysia, Singapore, Mongolia, etc…
Its a conservatism issue.
You can add about a third of the USA at this post as well.
Authoritarians gonna authoritarian regardless of economic model.
Don’t be silly, democracy is only when private companies do all encompassing AI powered surveillance.
If you’ve left a comment on a YouTube video, a new website claims it might be able to find every comment you’ve ever left on any video you’ve ever watched. Then an AI can build a profile of the commenter and guess where you live, what languages you speak, and what your politics might be.
According to the developer, they’ve provided the tool to cops in Portugal, Belgium, and “other countries in Europe.” They told 404 Media that the website is meant for private investigators, journalists, and cops.
Don’t Chinese private mega corporations do this too?
Chinese corporations do only what government allows them to do, any more and the CEO “takes an extended vacation”.
Well yeah and the government really wants to pry into every aspect of your life. So you’ll have the same shit
Now we only need to find a source of how many lgbtq+ fiction writers have been arrested in those same countries and we can proceed with the comparison.
As much as I like to stan China for how they treat their billionaires and corporations, this is wrong. Sex work, in all its forms, is a valid, lucrative, and old line of work across the world. China is one of the most developed nations on Earth. They should also be the most progressive when it comes to this. Smh
it’s valid to support some policies in some places without it making you a fervant supporter of everything that state does.
like I love how china actually invests in infrastructure, including housing and public transit and walkable cities.
I dont like what they do in Taiwan and Hong Kong.
Weirdly they are more progressive when it comes to prostitution; prostitution isnt illegal, but soliciting it is.
“The Chinese government wants to promote traditional family values and liking danmei novels is seen as a factor in making women less willing to have children,” Dr Ge explains.
Man, it’s wild to see them go from one-child to this in a single generation.
The machine needs meat
Overcorrection in policy is not uncommon in authoritarian regimes. I’d imagine because policy carries the threat of imprisonment, not just guidance.
It’s the same among “Conservatives” in the US, Russia, and now apparently China.
They all say that we’d need “high birth rates”, which is just not true.
Think about it: Automation and AI have the potential to put lots of people into unemployment in the next 20 years. For the sake of preventing that unemployment, it’d be good if people had fewer kids. Yet for some reason, governments struggle really hard to comprehend that simple connection.
Automation and AI have the potential to put lots of people into unemployment in the next 20 years. For the sake of preventing that unemployment, it’d be good if people had fewer kids. Yet for some reason, governments struggle really hard to comprehend that simple connection.
Because they assume all people will be consumers of goods. So if they have more people, there will be more consumers to buy things.
Now the assumption falls apart in any rigor since automation means that less people are needed for labor and would have money to buy gods. But that requires a government that thinks beyond the limited lifetimes of those running the government.
I generally want to have sex with my husband after reading erotica. You know, because it’s arousing. How did this not occur to them?
How many straight men do you know who have a sound grasp on women’s sexuality?
and here’s why the BBC is blocked in Vietnam
The background of the matter transcends conflicts over gender concepts. In recent years, many local governments have been unable to cover their expenses, resulting in a phenomenon known as “distant sea fishing” (远洋捕捞), which refers to “profit-driven law enforcement,” aimed at plundering money from other places. These female writers are just a tiny fraction of the victims. There are also well-known entrepreneurs who have lost their lives due to such extortion.
The future is here.
The future of our countries, if we don’t act and stop conservativism.
Weird. I was told state atheism was the hallmark of human rights.
Weird focus. How about you considering that a one-party authoritarian regime isn’t exactly the hallmark of human rights, atheist or theist?
Yeah well you support a genocide, so you are the last to point fingers at China and anyone else.
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no disrespect, what the hell are you talking about
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Sticking your fingers in your ears while screaming like a baby does not make reality disappear.
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