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- palestine@lemmy.ml
In February, US President Donald Trump declared that “The US will take over the Gaza Strip” and “level out” the remaining buildings and transfer the Palestinian population to “other countries.” At the time, both US and international media dismissed Trump’s plan as an “outlandish” scheme with no prospect of realization.
The Israeli government approached Trump’s plan with deadly seriousness. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu praised Trump’s “bold vision” for an ethnically cleansed Gaza. “We’re working on it,” Trump said during a meeting in Washington last month.
On Monday, the Netanyahu government effectively announced the beginning of the final stage of ethnic cleansing in Gaza. The plan includes a full military occupation of the entire Gaza Strip and the mass internment of the population in concentration camps under armed guard, as a prelude to forced marches through the desert or deportation by sea.
These concentration camps will be staffed by private US security contractors, with the Israel Defense Forces overseeing the distribution of starvation rations. According to a report this week by Reuters, the United States and Israel are actively discussing the formation of a “transitional government” headed by a US official to administer Gaza.
Echoing the “final solution,” the Nazi term for the genocide of Europe’s Jews, Netanyahu declared, “It’s time to launch the concluding moves.” The next day, Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich explained the meaning of the Israeli government’s plan:
Within a year, … Gaza will be entirely destroyed, civilians will be sent to … the south to a humanitarian zone … and from there they will start to leave in great numbers to third countries.
The mechanism for the forcible displacement of the Palestinian people will be mass starvation. As National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir made clear, “No electricity, and no other aid should be allowed—neither by the [Israeli military] nor by civil society.”
On March 2, Israel imposed a total blockade on all food, water and electricity entering the Gaza Strip. As a result, the majority of Gaza’s community kitchens have been forced to shut down due to a lack of supplies, and cases of acute malnutrition have surged by more than 80 percent. Harrowing images have circulated of emaciated, starving children—victims of a famine that is entirely man-made.
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We are the baddies. We are allowing our governments to do it. We are the German citizens who for whatever reason let Nazi Germany become a murder machine.
Today we are quiet so that we don’t get targeted. How long until we have to pledge our support so that we don’t get targeted? How long until we have to contribute so we don’t get targeted?
And here you have it how Germany turned like this during WWII. Propaganda, and dehumanization of the adversaries. As you can see this is still possible even now.
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“Don’t you dare compare us to the nazis!! That’s plain antisemitism! You’re a nazi!” I’m sick and fucking tired of this rhetoric. Grow some balls Netanyahu and admit you’re a fucking nazi. The world already knows it.
His dad wrote a book which flirted with suggesting that the Jews who didn’t escape the Holocaust were inferior.
There is some deeply fucked up internal racism in some Jewish communities.
Oooooooooffffffff what the fuck
Bibi himself:
It’s a fucked up way to insinuate that Hitler wouldn’t have suggested the Holocaust if not for Muslims. Which, no fuck that. I know I could Google “Poland pogram” and find some medieval account of mass graves or something entirely motivated by the fucking blood libel. Poisoning the wells (bubonic plague) or making matzo balls with the blood of gentiles.
It’s like the outrage that any criticism of Israel summons. That it’s antisemitic to say “yeah no this is pretty fucked up.” As if the fucking state of Israel under war criminal Bibi is identified with Judaism itself.
One of the things that shocks me to this day - I played a National Security Defense Game at GenCon as Bibi. I basically did what he has done. I played it as he did. I could not fucking win - everyone was like yah no you are a mega corrupt criminal. I was courting Trump, spreading conspiracy theories. I got booted the fuck out of office.
I retroactively win lol.
If you are expecting fascists to ‘come clean’ you don’t understand fascism
He literally can’t be a Nazi. Being Anti-Semitic is a core pillar of Nazism.
He is a fascist. Being a fascist is in no way better than Nazism. Calling him a fascist carries the same weight as calling him a Nazi and it is correct, while calling him a Nazi is a impossibility.
Stop using buzzwords. Use the actual terminology.
He literally can’t be a Nazi. Being Anti-Semitic is a core pillar of Nazism.
Israel is the most anti-semitic country in existence right now, so if you think that is a “core pillar” of Nazism (it isn’t), he ticks that box. But more importantly any group can absolutely be Nazis, they don’t have to subscribe to Hitler’s definition of who the chosen people are.
Ok, so does this kick off WW3 or are other nations just going to roll over and allow this to happen?
How the hell is this even a plausible timeline we’re living in?
It’s always been like this. We just have the Internet now so we can learn about it happening.
No, these are unprecedented times and anyone who tells you otherwise is lying for their own ulterior purposes
It’s always unprecedented times, history never stops being made
Israel of all countries turning into a full-blown fascist state complete with its own holocaust would be really funny in an ironic way if it wasn’t so deeply sad and tragic.
The cycle of abuse on a national scale. Its crazy to see.
But hey, at least you stopped Harris and Biden. Imagine how much worse Gaza would be if you didn’t do that! \s
Zionist talking points to distract us from asking why a foreign apartheid state has so much influence on our politics or why our “good” party chose genocide over their own constituents.
I highly doubt the genocide as we are seeing it today would be happening if Harris had won. This plan at the very least wouldn’t have been proposed by the American president and received a rubber stamp of approval by the US government. We would have likely ceased aid to Israel by now and mobilized the UN to inflict other penalties.
Nothing points to that. They gave more money and held the exact same stance as Trump currently holds. Both parties receive substantial amounts from Israel, most of Trumps bribes are probably off the books though.
Both parties arent the same, but on the genocide issue they absolutely are. They are calling it Trumps plan to muddy the waters, nothing more.
I think it’s kind of silly to assume the party that literally lost the election because genocide was more important to them then getting votes, would be the one doing a 180 right after getting elected.
They … held the exact same stance as Trump currently holds
This lie is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.
Yes Democrats support Israel but there is no instance where they called for literal starving and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians by pushing them out of their country.
Their goal was and has always been a two-state solution. Trump’s current stance is a one-state solution where the other state becomes a golf course.
I guess we have different definitions of “stance”. They basically add their two state solution to fluff up their speechs, end it with “but Israel has a right to defend itself” and then declare another weapons package.
A small part of what they say directly contradicts the rest and their actions. It’s just there to keep us from bitching in my opinion.
I think Israel’s plan, currently being masqueraded as Trumps, would have happened regardless of the administration in charge, but we will never know because the good guys decided killing children was more important then keeping the white house.
Biden’s attempt to help with Israel’s ethnic cleansing failed, but he did try.
https://reason.com/2025/01/27/trump-revives-bidens-failed-proposal-to-remove-palestinians-from-gaza/
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yep, our Democratic party once-brothers tend not to like the idea that this genocide unfolded under Bidens active sponsorship and our entire government system is the lapdog of a foreign government.
In this one thing the democratic party is as bad as Trump. Just plain old evil and corruption, for money.
the democratic party is as bad as Trump.
lol wut
Attacks on LGBTQ+ rights: https://www.advocate.com/politics/project-2025-lgbtq-so-far
Attacks on lawful Immigrants via mass deportations to a foreign nation: https://action.aclu.org/send-message/wrongful-deportations
Attacks on law firms that challenged his unlawful orders: https://www.npr.org/2025/04/13/g-s1-59497/trump-law-firms-pro-bono
Trump’s threats to annex Canada and Greenland.
Do I need to go on?
When it comes to blatantly deceptive quoting, removing “in this one thing” and then talking about other things is so on the nose that’s there’s no doubt left to give you the benefit of.
Be better.
That post reads as “Fascism is fine as long as its untermeschen are not people I care about” which is, funnily enough, the same way of thinking that MAGAs display ,just with different “favored groups”.
The tribalist (rather than principled) Democrats aren’t all that much different in mindset from Republicans: “It’s fine so long it’s only those I dislike who suffer”
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But you (the people who pointed at the Gaza genocide as an important issue in the US election) didn’t ask that before the election, you strongly suggested that it only had an influence on one party despite all evidence pointing towards either both parties being influenced equally or the party who won (among other reasons) because of you being worse.
Two things can be true at once.
Russia used the dems support of genocide to convince voters to commit to something that wasnt in their favor.
Israel uses the voters as scapegoats so their genocide and hold on our politics doesnt stop.
Personally, I was very vocal about holding the line and voting for Kamala anyways before the election. Im also smart enough to understand that ultimately, the dems lost because they put the wishes of Israel before their base and because the platform they pushed was disgusting and stupid. They completely fucked us over and I want change, not useless voter blame.
Russia used the dems support of genocide to convince voters to commit to something that wasnt in their favor.
Israel uses the voters as scapegoats so their genocide and hold on our politics doesnt stop.
Both true, but DNC and RNC leadership are the core of our problem there. And they will keep selling us all out, up to and including destroying whats left of our republic. We’re simply lucky that American soldiers arent on the front lines of Ukraine or Palestine doing what our paying customers tell us to do. Whenever a vote pertaining to Israel comes up in congress it gets 99% of the congressional vote. And we hang onto the very last shreds of free speech, which allows me to say this. We are not free-- we are owned.
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This plan was initially discussed during the Biden administration, and Biden didn’t provide any pushback against it.
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Democrats in the House and Senate continue to overwhelmingly support and vote for Israel, even when it is openly committing genocide.
Democratic leaders haven’t decreased their support of Israel one bit since the election. In fact, they’ve doubled down. What evidence do you have that Kamala would have been any better of this than Trump. Both parties are united in giving 100% total support to Israel. You can’t support something more than 100%. Both parties max that stat out.
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Good job everyone who advocated for 3rd parties or abstained because this ghoul was ‘the same’ as Biden or Harris. I hope you’re sleeping well that razing Gaza is the same as not doing that.
Great work. Perhaps you’ll get a discount on the new trump branded resorts they’ll build on that land, which we fucking warned you he wanted to do years ago.
I’m done trying to warn people. You won’t fucking listen so I’m wasting my breath, and these ‘I told you so’s just taste too bitter.
Wake me when you’re ruffling the ashes of your own countrymen from your hair (or don’t, because I’ll be seasoning your egg salad with what’s left of my bones).
e: MItHC reference, and since I’m both disabled and queer, I’m going down with this ship
So many of the “people” saying that were Russian trolls, I can’t imagine actually buying into it though… like if your ideology aligns with a Russian troll farm how do you even continue to function? Like, reassess your life ffs
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Ohhh. Man in the High Castle.
I really liked that series when it came out. Now it hurts to watch.
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That’s who you want to blame? World full of Nazis and you wanna stop and waste your energy, breath and time on fighting folk who couldn’t condone moderate genocide?
Shows your priorities. Despicable.
Trumps collaborating but this was always zionisms goal and method. Lets not hang this completely on America. This is Israel.
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