• @KuroiKaze@lemmy.world
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    189 days ago

    I really feel an as a lifelong martial artist and MMA practitioner that Bruce Lee’s fans have made him so insanely uncool that I don’t ever want to hear about him ever again. I am so tired of being told that all of the best fighters in the world would absolutely lose to him one-on-one and he had all these magic powers despite never fighting professionally on camera. He’s an actor first and foremost and he knew he wouldn’t do super well in professional fighting and hence never entered that arena.

      • @hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        9 days ago

        Also “professional fighting” when talking about points games for money sounds like a joke. They’re athletes competing, not fighting

        Or actors, if we’re talking about the largest and most well known “leagues” or whatever they’re called

        • @thebestaquaman@lemmy.world
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          19 days ago

          This is a kind of pedantic take… Yes, they’re professionals competing in combat sports, the sole purpose of which is to fight in a controlled environment, so that you can determine a winner with as few deaths and grievous injuries as possible.

          If we’re talking about MMA, then it’s literally a combat sport that was designed with the intent of settling the discussion of “which martial artist would win in a fight”, hence why pretty much all techniques are permitted (of course there are exceptions if you want to nitpick).

          You can’t look at a sport where people are intentionally knocked/choked unconscious or have bones broken by opponents and say “they’re not fighting because there’s points and they get paid”. Professional combat sports is the closest we’ll get to modern gladiators.

    • @otacon239@lemmy.world
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      179 days ago

      I don’t think Bruce Lee being cool is dependent on whether or not he was a “real” martial artist. He can just be cool as an actor.

      I don’t think the comic is implying anything beyond this.

    • @phdepressed@sh.itjust.works
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      149 days ago

      I mean the dude basically developed protein shakes and Jeet-kun do which is considered the precursor to modern MMA and jkd students have historically done well in professional fighting. He won a boxing tournament in Hong Kong before his US emigration. Obviously we don’t know how he’d fare in further professional fighting, but I think it is a reach to say he didn’t do it because he wouldn’t do well. He simply wanted to be an actor not a professional fighter.

      Yeah, he’s overhyped but he was still a cool dude.

  • @Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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    49 days ago

    Some podcaster I know who happens to also be into some martial arts always comments that Bruce Lee was way overrated. I got no idea about that, tho, so… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • Diplomjodler
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    49 days ago

    The whole Greek philosophy thing would have gone very differently if they’d had television.

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      Maybe. We don’t actually know, because most of our information about the skeptics and stoics come from their detractors. Very little of their actual beliefs made it into writing that survived the years.

  • @arotrios@lemmy.world
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    39 days ago

    If you didn’t care, you wouldn’t have posted this comic.

    Don’t fuck with the professional skeptics, kid. There is no limit to raw existential skepticism. All of your intentions are suspect…

    Or are they? And what is suspected?

    And am I talking to you or the audience? Why would I be talking to you when I don’t even know if you’re a real person or a bot? Is the audience listening? Am I listening? Am I real person? I think, therefore I am, but what happens when I’m not thinking?