I did support Carney and I hope he does good things, and I don’t think the following scenario would occur but I realize this belief is entirely based on my judgement of Carney’s character which could be wrong.
I was thinking about the proposed gas pipeline to the east coast. If Carney hopes to be re-elected, he can’t ram a pipeline through Quebec using emergency powers if such exist. Or he’d lose his seats in QC. Instead he’s gotta give significant concessions to QC, like ownership, high royalties, etc. Stuff that he and Blanchet can sell to the Quebecers. I think this is certainly possible for a gas pipeline.
But then the following disaster scenario occurred to me. He likely has significant Brookfield investments in that blind trust. He likely has a seat open on that board whenever he quits public service. What if he uses emergency powers to ram a whole bunch of infrastructure, through P3s, where the private partner retains ownership, and the partner is Brookfield. Do as many of those as possible, get kicked out of office and sit on Brookfield’s board, that much richer, while we get saddled with an even angrier and vindicated CPC fascism.
Thoughts?
Edit: Thanks for wading into my election PTSD nightmare!
What makes you believe any of this is in the realm of possibility?
That I don’t see anything making it impossible or even too difficult, if they get a majority which is still possible. And that Carney has incentive to do it. If the NDP holds power, they could intervene.
This is flawed logic with no substance to back it up.
I don’t see the flaw in it. But yes, at this point there’s no substance. We’ll see how the infrastructure projects would be structured. For example whether they retain public ownership or not. If we begin to see private ownership, that would be the substance.
Flaw 1) If Carney wanted to get richer, there are easier says to go about it.
Flaw 2) Party discipline is a norm, not codified. So if Carney does get his slim majority, a bare handful of the new, very tenuous MPs could easily stop them.
Flaw 3) Public polling in Quebec has shown approvals etc for pipelines ever since trump 2.0.
Flaw 4) BC and other provinces would demand similar handouts, which would be obvious at the start of such a program.
Flaw 5) Most of our pipelines etc have some degree of private ownership, that’s how we build things in Canada.
Flaw 6) Come on.
Flaw 1) If Carney wanted to get richer, there are easier says to go about it.
Probably right.
Flaw 2) Party discipline is a norm, not codified. So if Carney does get his slim majority, a bare handful of the new, very tenuous MPs could easily stop them.
Yeah, I guess I’m underestimating the barriers available.
Flaw 3) Public polling in Quebec has shown approvals etc for pipelines ever since trump 2.0.
Oh? Do you have a link handy?
Thanks for engaging!
I appreciate you being more courteous than I was.
Oh? Do you have a link handy? https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/article/most-canadians-support-building-a-cross-country-pipeline-reject-adopting-us-dollar-nanos-survey/
Thanks!
Quebec, which has taken a stance against pipeline projects in recent years, showed that nearly 60 per cent of people surveyed would support an oil and gas pipeline through their province.
Interesting. So maybe we could indeed start solving the EU’s gas problem.
What?
What in the fever dream is this?
A fever dream. 😂
eh. There’s growing support for pipelines. A smart PM would move fast (probably amending bill C-69, because he said he wouldn’t repeal it), and offer lots of goodies to sweeten the pot.
Well, you may not have been completely right on every detail, but the way Carney’s government is going, you weren’t far off.
Where did you dig up this ancient post from… 😄
But yeah things aren’t going spectacularly. A Kier Starmer scenario looks more likely at the moment.
lol yeah sorry was looking through someone else’s comment history (someone who seems quite hostile to criticism of dear leader) and found your post also getting a big pile-on from Canada’s Insufferable Liberal Hordes
and yeah it ain’t great
I think it’s worth pointing out that the LPC is not really in a good place, even if they did win the election and formed a minority government. People were frustrated with them, and we know this from earlier polls, the popular vote, particularly on the fact that the CPC is right on their tail, and the fact that too many of the ridings were extremely close calls (yes there’s vote splitting, but I’d say that’s only one factor in the CPC’s huge surge). If Carney does anything funny, it doesn’t just cost him his political career, it would wipe out the LPC in the next election, and may even effectively paralyze the political centre and left for years to come (given that we now have a much weakened NDP, and only 1 Green seat). People in the LPC should be aware of this, or at least I hope they do, cause it will most likely be the end of most of their political careers.
So I believe there’s pressure within the LPC to keep Carney in check.
Sure, he could blindside literally everyone and do things that would benefit Brookfield, but there’s no guarantee that it would actually benefit himself due to the blind trust. Carney would become a pariah to Canadians, and make people even angrier at Brookfield, which may, in turn, even if not immediately, hurt their bottom line. We haven’t even gotten to the legal battles that will ensue. Carney would have to be pretty stupid to make that kind of gamble, compared to actually just working normally as a politician and get his pension and live ultra-comfortably. But, we do have lots of dumb politicians that would do that, all over the world, so it’s an understandable worry. Just look at recent kleptocratic episodes, and how a good chunk of these kleptocrats barely served jail time and/or paid back what they’ve stolen.
Yeah, this is an important part of the picture. Anything but really good execution with tangible results from the new government would likely be faced with a con win in the following election. Especially if the CPC replace PP with someone less unlikable. Even the typical level of grift and incompetence may be enough. I think the situation is similar in this regard to Kathleen Wynne’s first election but the stakes are higher. If there are serious fuckups a wipeout is likely as you said.
Someone else has correctly addressed the nonsense in OPs post. I will add that oil to churchill for northwest passage to europe might work. Then only nat gas needs to go across Canada, a much safer option. Both of these are only for meeting domestic needs and ending foreign dependence, and then to assist our alkies in europe get off russian fossil fuels faster.
