cross-posted from: https://biglemmowski.win/post/6224801
Michael Gloss, 21, was the son of CIA Deputy Director for Digital Innovation Julianne Gallina Gloss, and Iraq war veteran Larry Gloss.
Before arriving in Russia on August 13, 2023, Gloss was travelling around Europe. On his Vkontakte page bio, he wrote: “I ran away from home (and) traveled the world. I hate fascism.”
On April 4, 2024, he was killed, likely during a Russian offensive near Bakhmut, however, his burial in the U.S. did not take place until December 2024, Important Stories reports.
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eco-activist, women’s rights supporter, and anti-fascist
fighting for Russia
ummm, something doesn’t compute
From the end of the article
But despite supporting Ukraine at the beginning of the full-scale war, he was at a military recruitment center in Moscow, alongside other foreign nationals, on September 5, 2023, Russian border data shows.
His social media posts show a distinct change in his views — one identified by Important Stories as belonging to Gloss suggest he believed in conspiracy theories involving Ukraine, and claimed NATO was an evolution of Adolf Hitler’s Nazi party.
NATO was an evolution of Adolf Hitler’s Nazi party.
Is that really so far off though?
Yes, unless you ask a fucking idiot.
Get bent you fucking Nazi shitbag
If by evolution you mean “created to oppose” then yes. The question is what global organization will be created to fight against the evil of Trump and Putin.
Yes
Not really. NATO had many ex top Nazis at the helm directly after world war 2. The line between Nazi Germany and NATO is very straight.
One of the most notable being top Nazi Adolf Heusinger https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Heusinger
Where the other guy went wrong is thinking that anyone opposing NATO in this case Russia suddenly becomes objectively good.
Well just because there are nazis dudes in an organization does not make it nazi itself. After the collapse of fascism, a lot of fascists kept or acquired important roles, there were nazi cunts in french administration, and i dont think it made the administration automatically nazi.
Since NATO was not iniated by nazis, nor by Germany, and has no nazi goals, i’m not sure if we can say that the line between Nazi Germany is very straight. It exists sure, but it’s probably not straight and certainly quite thin.
When the top of the organisation is a Nazi it sounds pretty Nazi to me.
Combined with the NATO genocides in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Korea, Palestine and more, it is obvious NATO is led by “Ubermenschen.”
But hey. The truth is very inconvenient.
The guy who was involved in the plot to assasinate Hitler?
Who vehemetly denied being involved in that plot, was cleared by the German secret service for not being involved and was praised by Hitler for his autobiography?
Read a fucking history book
Yes
Average technocrit ragebait. Yawn.
Yes, very far off.
Literally the bravest thing I’ve seen all week
It seems they convinced him that NATO and Ukraine are Nazis. Typical stuff from the play book. Dude just went all in on it. Pretty sad, he had his whole life ahead of him.
Who’d guess the cia deputy director would raise such a gullible piece of shit
I remember times when I rebelled against my parents and did some pretty stupid shit, but kids today are on a different level.
Technocrit just likes to stir shit. The reactions are what he wants.
Just look at ML or Hexbear right here on Lemmy. The tankies love Putin and Xi. Horseshoe is a law not a theory.
I like this version of horseshoe theory, but when you put the far left out on its on tine of the horseshoe its not a horseshoe anymore. This is why horseshoe theory is garbage.
I keep seeing this image repeated on Lemmy but I don’t buy it. It’s just an attempt for leftists to distance themselves from tankies. If you’re left but not a tankie, you are just center-left. Only tankies are far-left
Today’s tankies (appropriately to the name) are pro authoritarianism and it just “happens” that’s what far right Russia is. Even China isn’t truly a communism, but they are both authoritarian.
You can be both pro-authoritarian and far left. In fact, that’s kind of the definition of far left.
Yes pro authoritarian far left that’s basically communism.
China is hardly a communism right now, Russia definitively isn’t a communism. So the current tankies that are worshipping Russia and China aren’t really for communism, they are only pro authoritarianism.
They are actually more aligned with MAGA than anything, the only difference is just that they don’t have problem openly supporting Russia and China.
Since this is world community there are people in other countries, and might be different definition what’s far left. But in US what authoritarians are labeling as far left are people who still want liberal democracy, but with social programs (what you have in EU, especially in Scandinavian countries). The “furthest left” politicians, Bernie Sanders is basically advocating for medical care for all Americans and taxes on rich. Basically so the government works for the people but against them.
Yes pro authoritarian far left that’s basically communism.
I’d say it’s the stages before communism. When the authoritarians have to take all the power to give it to the people. The problem is that is impossible. Once the authoritians have taken all the power, they never give it up. So real communism doesn’t exist and can never exist because it always requires some type of revolution and central organization after the effects of the revolution. And that central power will never give up that power.
So just because they haven’t reached “true” communism doesn’t mean they are all of a sudden now on the “far-right”.
Today’s tankies are still considered far-left.
Tankies have almost nothing in common with the far left outisde teenagers who haven’t worked out the fundemental flaws with communism yet. Beyond those teenagers most left wing folk consider tankies to be pretty right wing.
Tankies have almost nothing in common with the far left
This doesn’t make sense because tankies are the far left. What you’re thinking of as far left is actually center left.
But tankies almost universally want authoritarianism and dictatorships? those are far right positions. The left tends to want some flavour of socialist democracy. Tankies are left like China is communist.
almost universally want authoritarianism and dictatorships? those are far right positions
These are both far right and far left positions. That’s what I’m saying.
The left tends to want some flavour of socialist democracy.
Yes, the center-left wants this. The far-left wants revolutions and purity tests, burning down the system, and leaving minorities to die and fend for themselves while they wage their “class war”.
yes if everyone would just embrace centrism we’d be in a better place, simply participating in war crimes and slowly grinding down and hollowing out the US populace, instead of quickly…right peregrin5?
Let me guess, you didn’t vote in 2024, and bitched about Democrats the entire time. How’s the Trump regime working out for you kreskin?
Horseshoe “theory” is generally used to attack progressives to promote centrism. Its a DNC tool and you’re the chump using it.
You’re a chump that thinks the Democrats are out to attack progressives. Maybe don’t be an uneducated dork.
not that i would die for fucking russia but its the lesser evil vs the us. i suppose its easier to see that if you are closely related to cia people.
the us has done and and even admitted to stuff far worse than most out there. its not the biggest military budget in the world (of all time?) for nothing.
Even if that were true, what does that have to do with Ukraine?
ukraine is an US proxy to shoot at russia. the us is provoking and paying for the war to weaken russia.
a win for russia is a loss for the west, which because of imperialism and colonialism, is a win for everyone else.
But of course! Those poor Russians just had to do a whole invasion, entirely out of self defense!
i didnt really put it that way, but kind of.
the cia has been talking openly about provoking it since the mid to late 2000s. putin has also been saying he would take nato expansion as a sign of aggression. this war was completely avoidable.
this talk of “evul russia” or “poor ukraine” is just propaganda to manufacture consent for spending billions on an useless war instead of addressing poverty or something useful, and people should stop believing it. this war is not about morals or being “good” or “evil” at all.
Ukraine is the country being invaded. Russia is the one invading. That is as simple as it is. You invade = you are the aggressor = you are the evil one.
i wish the world was that simple, with simple solutions. i’m still rooting for the best outcome for most people.
if you think this is about “good” and “evil”, you are being naive at best. war doesn’t work like superhero movies.
NATO does not expand (invade to grab land), it is based on voluntary membership application (although it is not truly volunteer since they are being forced, antagonized to join due to russia expansionism). New members are only accepted through vote. “NATO expansion” is well known as putin/FSB propaganda meant for a certain naive audience.
NATO borders with russia are the most peaceful with the low number of russian troops. Internally, Russia is not concerned about NATO, a defense alliance since Russia has the highest number of nukes.
In the media, they will use NATO expansion propaganda because there are naive clowns and useful idiots who will believe in NATO expansion propaganda. Do remember russia was fine with Ukriane joining NATO, they saw they can use it as propaganda to justify russia expansionism. http://www.en.kremlin.ru/events/president/transcripts/21598.
Ukraine public support for joining NATO was in the minority before the war, and only after invasion it became majority. Even after Ukraine said they won’t apply to NATO, russia didn’t not stop its expansion because russia expansion has nothing to do with NATO.
In fact due to russia aggressive expansion even more countries applied to join NATO. Putin knew that russia expansion will encourage more to submit application to join NATO. Putin was warned to stop russia expansion as that just cause more to apply for NATO membership, it is open to anyone. Furthermore note that expanding russia territories just bring russia closer to NATO, increasing russia border with NATO. Clearly it is not about NATO.
Even, without using NATO, putin will come up with a new reason like nazis, terrorists or LGBTQ or WMDs or security issues ( a country with the most nukes in the world has a security issue? only naive clowns will believe that) or restoring empire/imperialism (which he admitted in interview with carlson) or all of the above each for a different audience. Whatever it takes to get crimea and its warm water ports, and later Donbas for a land bridge and to secure Crimea water supply. Eventually going all the way to Transnistria.
You think things are so simple as poor top nuclear powered russia who is scared of evil tiny Ukraine, for suggesting sending in membership application form to NATO. You are being naive at best. War does not work like a superhero movie.
NATO was created to protect small countries from russia expansionism and stop russia from antagonizing its neighbours.
Russia was even member of G8 until russia antagonized G8 members by invasion of Crimea. The only way a massive nuclear powered russia sees NATO as a “threat” is that NATO prevents russia from expansionism… from expanding russia territories.
NATO was literally created to antagonize Russia. The political process of expanding it IS aggression.
The CIA director was already saying this openly way back in the late 2000s. I’d trust that over stupid media narratives they use to manufacture consent for the war.
Its presence is a threat to them, regardless of who you think of as the good guys. (hint: its not the US empire.)
It’s probably because USA is openly fascist while russia at least claims to oppose.
Putin and Xi claim to oppose fascism the exact same way that Trump does while the actions of all three directly contradict their lip service. This is the biggest crock of shit I’m probably going to read on the internet today.
Maybe if you didn’t keep your head inside your ass you’d feel a bit embarrassed of saying stupid shit online. The confidence you have to say stuff like that is truly perplexing.
You’re really dumb
I hate fascism.
So he fought for Putin to invade Ukraine? That’s some top tier thinking there.
bought into fighting wokeness, or nazis in ukraine probably.
Have you seen the leaders of western imperialism lately? Say what you want about russian politicians, but they’re not doing this.
You make me want to be a worse person.
I laughed so hard at this, god damn
There’s more than one way to fasc, I guess.
But they are. I mean they are not saluting but their opinions, their mindset, and ideology are quite similar .
Western Imperialism these days is the US, Israel, and Russia
But those people doing that are pro russian, just like putin’s nazi Wagner group.
You support Russia because they hide it better. Thanks for admitting that you’re a gullible moron!
Bro didn’t like that Israel invaded Gaza, so he joined Russian army in their invasion of Ukraine to make it right 🤷♂️
Thats a true American freedom story if I’ve ever heard one. Lets get this kid a monument in the deep south.
It seems he lost his mind, before losing his body too. :(
Check the ground near where the drone got him, you might still find remnants of both.
Not if those chonky frontline dogs have anything to say about it.
Ohh no :(
Anyway…
I certainly don’t recommend following the link to his obituary from the article and reading the entries in the traitor’s tribute book.
Example of some of those entries:
Edit: Somebody noticed.
Since they took the page down...
Oh no. Anyways
Have y’all tried tater tots? My gf introduced me to them and I swear she makes the best ones!
Sounds like a good kill. Chose the wrong side, should have stayed home.
How does someone keep a security clearance high enough to be a CIA Deputy Director when you have a child fighting in a foreign army?
I hate fascism so I join the Russian army
I hate having to watch mental gymnastics like that right before going to sleep. How dumb is you
Over 600
Tankie you for your service
Glad he’s dead then
That country turns fascists into sunflowers
Hahaha he hates fascists, fights for one and gets ganked. LOL. GJ nerd, didn’t you know, dieing is what the Orks do?
There’s a ton of comments about this on r/securityclearance about this and how crazy it is his parents still have clearances.
I wonder how much his actions were about believing in the Russian cause and how much about rebelling against his CIA parents.
His family is MAGA, they are treasonous Russian assets.
Completely aside from what he was doing in Russia, he gives me the same vibe as Ché Cook from The OC.
Chris Pratt was in the OC?
