• TheRealKuni
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      1 month ago

      Because, similar to blackface in its time, people love to point and laugh at exaggerated caricatures of something different from themselves.

      And CBS airs lowest common denominator garbage that the masses devour.

    • @Simulation6@sopuli.xyz
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      I believe this is what happened to Dr Who. When it started it was for science and history nerds, science sounding gobble-de-gook, cos play outfits, very low production values (the infamous duct tape boots). All just good fun.
      When it was rebooted the focus had shifted. The Doctor as the cool guy, a Jesus figure, became more and more pronounced. They started to make fun of nerds on a regular bases. Amazing writing and production values, but at some point during the Tennant era I stopped watching in disgust.

      • @Dasus@lemmy.world
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        71 month ago

        I only started with NuWho, watching it as it came out in 2005.

        I found it magnificent, exactly because it shied away from glorifying violence, made emotions be the focus of things and there was clearly some large over-arching thing with “Bad Wolf”, but it wasn’t like in the American shows, where if there’s a clue to be seen, the camera zooms in on it, making sure you can’t miss it.

        I gather you are right, and NuWho is way more American and hero-centric than Classic Who — but because it was and I was a teenager enjoying shows like Prison Break at the time — I got into Who, and then into better British shows, better shows in general, chasing that sort or good pacifist writing. Star Trek is ofc prolly the best franchise when it comes to actual philosophy. Doctor Who elicits emotions more than thought when compared to the Star Trek Ethos, albeit in a more profoundly British way.

        Uuh there’s actually a new episode of Dr Who tonight that reminded me.

        Oooh, it’s out already. And I have a few glasses of rum left. And a steak. And a pint of red. Ooooooh. This is turning out to be a nice day.

        Anyway tldr completely agree with you, but I think going a bit American with NuWho was a crucial step in luring in more watchers to start appreciating the good things. Kinda how for a kid, it’s easier to learn to eat a new dish when you introduce it bit by bit or with copious amounts of ketchup or something — slowly teaching them that the bitterness is what makes it tasty.

      • @JcbAzPx@lemmy.world
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        The original Doctor Who was an educational show mostly aimed at school aged children that used a sci-fi gimmick to teach history lessons (much of which are a bit outdated now). They would alternate storylines between future and past settings through most of William Hartnell’s run.

        Towards the end of classic Who it was already much more like modern Who than those first seasons.

    • @dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee
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      It had a good few first episodes with fun geeky jokes, but it quickly turned to bad jokes and lazy stereotypes and relied loosely on stereotypes to contain the geekyness.

    • @ZeffSyde@lemmy.world
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      I always felt like it was a show for moms of geeks and nerds that missed their kids once they moved out.

    • Phoenixz
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      I’m a geek and a nerd and i loved it, sorry.

      • NickwithaC
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        11 month ago

        Hush you! Can’t have people not joining in the dogpile on a TV show that ended 6 years ago…

    • @tomenzgg@midwest.social
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      The problem with the r-slur wasn’t the word itself but dehumanizing mentally disabled people; I guess being more overt about it is preferable, if we have to choose one or the other, but you’re not circumventing anything.

  • @blind3rdeye@lemm.ee
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    I watched one random episode of BBT after it was recommended to me by a few people. That one episode was enough for me to decide that I never want to see that show again, and also that I should disregard all recommendations from the people who said I should watch it.

  • @mlg@lemmy.world
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    371 month ago

    No no IT Crowd is a show about sysadmins, not geeks lol. There’s a very clear difference.

    • @SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world
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      151 month ago

      And Moss was a nerd not a geek. He wasn’t obsessing about comics, videogames etc. like the characters in BBT.

      • Camelbeard
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        I also think this is a cultural difference. The comic book obsession seems more like an american thing. In the Netherlands and Belgium there is also a big comic book appreciation, but it’s much less about heroism and more humorous.

        • @SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world
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          Okay but he didn’t obsess about the British equivalent of comic books either. Geeks obsess about consumerist pop culture whether it’s comics, LEGO or Harry Potter. And Moss did non of that.