• @Gatito@lemm.ee
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    14 days ago

    Not to excuse Nintendo, but I think people need to stop being such big consumers. Having new phones and new consoles on release is completely unnecessary; I bet most gamers have bought games that they haven’t even played yet, let alone finished, and are already anxious for a system that hasn’t even been released.

    I think we all can be more patient and frugal, and stop following trends and releases so closely.

    • @MoreZombies@lemm.ee
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      714 days ago

      I appreciate this and agree 100%, but there are a LOT of factors besides just having the thing that make it harder than “just stop consuming”.

      If you are someone who typically only plays games with friends, it can very much be a case of “Buy or miss out”. I have a group of friends who will probably buy GTA VI and play hundreds of hours of multiplayer together. I know I will not be rewarding Rockstar for their inevitably shitty choices and behaviour with this game (Fuck them for what they did with GTA VI, greedy assholes), and I know this means just…not playing with my friends. I’m okay with that as a thirty something adult, but for others they won’t be able to “just not”.

      Then you have all the FOMO stuff - I refused to buy Diablo 4 on launch in protest of prices and Blizzard, etc. But it was VERY hard for me, being aware I was missing out on an exper

      Limited time items, exclusive events, etc, can all play a factor for those who’s brains are tickled in just the right way.

      I wish it were simply a case of patience and frugality.

      • @Gatito@lemm.ee
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        413 days ago

        You’re right. I didn’t consider that it’s easier to play with other people when adopting early. I didn’t consider this.

      • @gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        113 days ago

        Fuck them for what they did with GTA VI, greedy assholes

        Did you mean V? And by that I mean: do you mean Online?

        V is still a great single player experience for a reasonable price. Online is considered separate and always was, and I can completely agree with what they did to that. I can also agree that not giving us dlc for V in favor of Online updates was crap, too. But R* still gave us a game worth the money that’s still playable right now

        If there’s been some huge update with VI that I missed then, well, shit. I think I saw the price went up $10 on some retailers site, but idk if I trust that kind of shit

    • kratoz29
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      214 days ago

      I don’t consider myself an early adopter, heck I never am, the only time I recall is getting a New Nintendo 3DS Black Friday edition even before the BF (the thing arrived first in Mexico) just because it was a special edition and the only way to get that model here officially… And for a good price even!

      The only reason I am tempted to get a Switch 2 is because it probably means it will get exploited easier/earlier than the next batches.

  • @arudesalad@sh.itjust.works
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    14 days ago

    What’s annoying about this is that (at least for me) the switch 2’s price is not the problem (outside of the USA, good luck to American Nintendo fans, you’ll need it), I get that it is expensive for a Nintendo console (I probably couldn’t afford one) but it has hardware worth the price (from what I have seen, feel free to correct me). The problem are the overpriced games, £75 (physical)/£67 (digital) is too much even for a Nintendo game. Do Nintendo really think they can just get away with prices that inflated in a market where most families will go “but we already have Mario Kart! Why spend another £430!!”

    • @piyuv@lemmy.world
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      814 days ago

      Also the greed. Charging for the virtual tour game (however cheap it may be), charging for performance updates to existing games (not extra content, only performance). Switch 1 games should just run better on the new console by default.

      I’m not even sure hw is fairly priced. They’re able to sell the same thing in Japan for 100$ cheaper. I don’t think they’re losing money there.

    • @Nikls94@lemmy.world
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      -914 days ago

      Not to sound like a fanboy, I mean I am but that’s not why, but I get the Mario Kart price tag.

      I’ve had a switch from day 1 and look in the e-shop charts about once a week, and Mario Kart was consistently in the top 20 most sold games of the past 2 weeks.

      From a switch perspective, you paid $70 for MarioKart + $25 for the DLC and got a single game a lot of people played since April 2017. In that same time you got 8 Call of Duty games for $70 each ($560) - with the later CoDs charging you $30 for chores or “Battle Passes”. Or you could have paid 95 Fortnite Battle Passes (total ~$950) since the launch of MarioKart.

      I forgot the point I wanted to make.

      • @Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world
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        314 days ago

        if only MK, Fortnite and CoD would be the only three options for gamers then probably MK would win this round.

        Unfortunately you comparing your favourite game to two vomit piles full of microtransaction and battle passes so cant see your point there.

        If you enjoy the games Nintendo sells go for it, in my opinion the inflated new prices are ridiculous and will have a negative impact on the gaming industry in global as other big corpos will start copying them if Nintendo can get away with it.

      • @chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz
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        214 days ago

        MK 8 is also a previous generation title that Nintendo got to double dip on already.

        MK night be a good value proposition for some folks. It’s still too expensive. I have games that I’ve paid $20, $10, sometimes even less for that I’ve gotten more play time out of. Play time to cost is not a good argument.

        Let me also contrast with some of Nintendo’s worst practices, like selling 3 old Mario games with no enhancements, that are just emulated, for $60.

  • PixiePoop
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    1314 days ago

    Company says that if you can’t afford their expensive product, you should buy one of their cheaper ones. Well yeah… Did anyone expect something else here? They aren’t going to give you a special deal, nor are they going to advise you to buy elsewhere. This is so pointless.

    • @BigPotato@lemmy.world
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      313 days ago

      Yeah, Microsoft had a similar stance around the Xbox One timeframe! It worked out great for them.

      Just don’t talk about it, Nintendo, that’s a better PR strategy.

    • @Hyphlosion@lemm.ee
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      211 days ago

      They aren’t going to give you a special deal

      1. The Switch 2 and Mario Kart World bundle is a good deal.
      2. If you’re working on your credit score and it’s time to open a new line of credit, get a credit card with a $200 welcome reward that gives you $200 back if you spend $500 in the first three months. Perfect for the Switch 2 with other items for launch. Just sayin’.
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    914 days ago

    I’m not a big Nintendo fan, because of their pricing and lawsuits, but I’m siding with them on this one.

    If you can’t afford a Switch 2, don’t buy one.

    This is coming from someone who really couldn’t afford one right now. We wait until we can or the price goes down (oh wait. Nintendo doesn’t do that )

    • @inclementimmigrant@lemmy.worldOP
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      1714 days ago

      I think it very tone deaf with regards to how their trying to up the prices of games, which I think is BS, and increasing the price of accessories, and locking things behind subscriptions.

      Very much so a Blizzard, “don’t you have phones?” Type of situation.

    • @Hyphlosion@lemm.ee
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      Or, and hear me out…

      If you’re working on your credit score… Go for it!

      I was able to get an Xbox Series X and made on-time monthly payments for it over 2 years. It opened a new line of credit and regular automatic payments toward it did wonders for my credit score.

      • Rhynoplaz
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        111 days ago

        Right, but I would consider that being able to afford one.

        • @Tronn4@lemmy.world
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          I been here since the NES days. Nintendo doesn’t lower prices. Edit: don’t mean to sound stand offish but I’d be surprised if Nintendo ever does that

    • yeehaw
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      114 days ago

      This would work, if people wouldn’t buy them regardless. I have no doubt this console will be successful, but I’m not gonna kid myself and think nobody is going to buy it at that price.

      • @NastyNative@mander.xyz
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        013 days ago

        With this economy the sales numbers will be low. They should consider a 300 price point and make up the loses with the sale of their games.

  • @Katana314@lemmy.world
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    114 days ago

    Although we still number consoles, in a lot of ways we did get our “tiered” console structure.

    Take most people’s daily plays, and I’d say about 90% of them or more have an edition available on the prior gen console. And it makes sense when so many of those games have relatively basic graphics - and when game engines have gotten better at scalability.

    So, those consoles are neatly serving as a low budget option for a lot of gamers that can’t follow all the latest and most expensive games. Yes, some newer releases will be fully excluded; but even then, getting a brand new or used Switch or PS4 can introduce someone to a huge number of games if they haven’t been exploring options.

  • @Nikls94@lemmy.world
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    Imho the price is justified. By raw numbers it’s a beefier steam deck for + $30.

    Oh, and you get a dock that increases its power.

    • @piyuv@lemmy.world
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      514 days ago

      By raw numbers I have around 500 games on steam and there’s a huge sale every 3-4 months. Deck is also a pretty capable computer and runs Linux. Deck can run games from many platforms, not just steam.