“This is a GREAT time to move your COMPANY into the United States of America, like Apple, and so many others, in record numbers, are doing,” Trump posted on his Truth Social platform, promising “ZERO TARIFFS and “no environmental delays.”

https://archive.ph/CucF8

  • Hikuro-93
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    So let’s consider an extreme situation, based on this exact premise.

    Eventually those same companies migrating to the US will become isolated from the rest of the consumer world (EU and rest of Europe, British Commonwealth, China, Mexico and many more) due to tariffs being applied on the US, if not full trade ban in some cases, and be restricted to US and Russian markets… With underperforming products because the US doesn’t have the independent production capabilities it thinks it does. Ironically funny.

    And that’s not even mentioning the internal disadvantages in this whole process, like white supremacy disguised as anti-DEI, having to constantly kiss the ring for a chance at tax exemptions (which are not guaranteed), and selling to a presumably poor consumer base with a few ultra-rich in the mix.

    Make it make sense. And make me some popcorn and bring me my 3D glasses, because I sure as hell won’t feel sorry for any company falling for this “huge deal”. 🤷‍♂️

    • Lit
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      41 month ago

      They will just move 1 factory to US but will still have factories outside US that manufacture cheaply for the rest of the world outside US. Some American will buy from overseas while travelling.

      • @phdepressed@sh.itjust.works
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        21 month ago

        The rich and upper middle. Most people can’t afford international travel as is. Tariffs and job loss only going to make that worse.

  • @Gates9@sh.itjust.works
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    How long does this fuck think it takes to build a pharmaceutical or electronics plant? How you gonna source the materials dumass? Who do you think makes the equipment? You’re asking people to set up manufacturing and support infrastructure overnight, all the logistical integration…This man has a small child’s grasp on all of this shit.

    • @Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
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      51 month ago

      You just aren’t ambitious and distruptive enough, below you can view my excellence plan.

      Do it under tent light. Get a roller, flatten everything real nice. Setup a tent city near a stream so you can pump water in and industrial waste material out. Do it in a red state that will allow cheap child labor. Then hire any desperate people you can find for 50 cents over what the market rate is for unskilled labor to do the complicated stuff. When you make stuff, you shouldn’t care if the products are up to specifications or not, that could cost a lot of money to do perfectly. Only accept cash in advance. If some whiny customer tries to sue you, make sure to draw it out until all your current contracts are done. Then just dissolve the “company” pick a new name out of the hat and operate again tomorrow. Have sales people selling in advance under the next companies name. When buying any supplies that won’t be regularly needed, always fail to pay them, then tie them up in stupid contract disputes until you Phoenix yourself into a new company.

    • @Fredselfish@lemmy.world
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      51 month ago

      See his quote about no environmental delays, we don’t just have that stuff made over there because it’s cheaper. We also do it because of the environmental fallout from having such plants.

      Also no way will we get Americans to do these jobs. Hell Apple plants hsve to have nets to keep employees from killing themselves. Also don’t they have to live at the plant?

      • @Gates9@sh.itjust.works
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        1 month ago

        Hey look, environmental and labor rights issues aside, and not discounting that, if we want to make the United States a manufacturing powerhouse again I’m all for it but it requires actual central planning and investment ala Bernie Sanders, and it’s gonna take ten years.

    • @huppakee@lemm.ee
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      11 month ago

      Well it’s not like putting your money in the stock market is a good idea either.

    • Bone
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      131 month ago

      It just needs to find a suit and show proper gratification first. No more DEI turtle necks.

  • @thefartographer@lemm.ee
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    231 month ago

    Isn’t it cheaper to stop doing business with us than to alienate the rest of the world? I mean, it sucks to be in the middle of this, but I have zero confidence that I’m going to survive the next 3 years.

    • @AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee
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      41 month ago

      Personally, I have also already come to terms with my death. Honestly, it is quite liberating in a way. I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees.

  • FauxPseudo
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    211 month ago

    They can’t. The ability to get an equipment loan is dead. It will take years to build factories. Longer than the presidential term. When you move fast you break things. In this case they broke the global economy.

    • @huppakee@lemm.ee
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      51 month ago

      There is still a chance they only broke the American part, might turn out that the global economy doesn’t need it. Fingers crossed.

      • FauxPseudo
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        31 month ago

        It’s all connected. Can’t just break the American part. The American part is the financing of the non-Amarican parts.

      • @Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world
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        21 month ago

        America has the largest and richest consumer base. We are one of the few major economies to have a large population of millennials and gen z.

        Who will Japan, Germany and China sell their shit to? There isn’t a market that can replace the US. The US also simply can’t make everything we like to consume. Which is why we are now headed for recession/stagflation.

  • @wabafee@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    I have this feeling companies will just hunker down and wait it out until the next guy comes into office. While everyone suffer.

  • @zephorah@lemm.ee
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    Is this man functioning at full capacity? It took over a year to build a chain grocery store in a nearby town and that’s mostly stuff on shelves, not a production line set-up. Time was spent up front as well, in planning and logistics, that I wasn’t able to see, such that the total time to build a chain grocery store took well over a year, maybe two or even three.

    Meanwhile, Trump expects “now” for manufacturing.

    Never mind the fact that Americans won’t be able to buy products of that manufacturing due to high costs. What was the estimate, that iPhones manufactured here would cost $2k+? Something like that.

    • mosiacmango
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      61 month ago

      $2300, and that assumes that they can even get the materials.

      China has silently stopped shipping a lot of metals used in high tech applications that it controls 90% of the stock of. The 10%? Our previous trade partners Canada and Australia, who aren’t big fans right now.

      • @zephorah@lemm.ee
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        11 month ago

        Not so silently, if you pay attention. There were brief headlines on the No selling to our defense contractors some time ago.

        I’m in Trump time dilation so it’s hard to guesstimate when I read that one.

  • @EvilBit@lemmy.world
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    91 month ago

    The stupidest part is that of fucking COURSE there are zero tariffs if you move to the US, because tariffs are BY DEFINITION placed on imports. There’s no limit to the fuckery he can apply to you domestically, it’s just guaranteed not to be called “tariffs”.

  • Lit
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    no tariffs but products will still be more expensive (manufacturing cost) than buying the same outside US. So people will still go overseas to buy the substantially cheaper same-product brand.

    Why is he begging companies to relocate to US, though? to save face?

    • @atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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      81 month ago

      Why is he begging companies to relocate to US, though? to save face?

      To pretend like his tariffs have a goal he wants to achieve that isn’t just creating vassal states.