Yes. All the yes. I was shaky on it at first, because I really didn’t want to dive out of my depth when it comes to piracy (which really only includes torrents). I thought it was going to be confusing, but it really is just “sign up, pay, and get your API key”. And the price is right (using realDebrid).
However, I’m a little concerned. This makes it all so easy to stream and such, but what happens when everyone starts using it and torrents are no longer downloaded and properly seeded? Should I go out of my way to download something after I watch it and then seed for a few weeks? I still keep my VPN around, so that’s totally an option. I’m using Stremio in conjunction with realDebrid.
I think I just want to know a bit more about how it works and how the P2P functions. I want to be able to give back, but I only seed a few torrents at a time. I just don’t have the money for a large seeding server right now (which I may fix with a Pi5 at some point). Seeding is currently my only option/skill in helping piracy stay alive and the digital world stay free.
Off topic question
As a curious afterthought: Does anyone remember Azureus when it was just Azureus? I had a hard time remembering the name (it changed to Vuze) until the other day when I was listening to this: Teleport Pro Keygen Music (YouTube for those that use other frontends). This tune really brought back some good old memories of the OG (loose term, they’re OG to me) torrent pirates and their BANGER keygen music. Legends of their time… I really do look up to them. They’re fucking heroes.
[…] what happens when everyone starts using it and torrents are no longer downloaded and properly seeded?
It’s already happening. More and more people stream torrents and don’t seed back which kills public torrents. Imo Debrid is not as big of an issue as they don’t necessarily tax the P2P network as much as someone only streaming torrents and automatically dumping them directly.
Additionally downloading torrents after you watched them does not make much sense as you’d tax the network without benefit (unless you seed to say a ratio of 2+).
If you currently have torrents there’s nothing stopping you from continuing to seed them if you don’t need the storage. Long term seeders are especially important for keeping torrents alive and you won’t need to redownload content you’ve watched just to seed it.
As long as you seed to 1.0 ratio (e.g. 1GB up, 1GB down) per torrent you don’t hurt the network. More means you compensate for someone not seeding.
I try so hard. I leave things up for ages. It seems like once I’ve DLed something, no one else wants it.
And that’s fine!
I leave things up for ages. It seems like once I’ve DLed something, no one else wants it.
Can relate
Ever since my early Demonoid days I’ve made sure to seed at least 2.0 ratio. I think when I left, I was at 2.6. Now I just make sure to seed a week minimum, and two if the torrent is hurting for seeders. I’ll remember this. What I’ll do is stream via realdebrid on my TV while I seed the same on my PC.
Basically, I was downloading and seeding then using a USB to watch on TV, but my TV and Bluray player are super picky about the codec formatting. Realdebrid was my solution. When it comes to just watching by myself on PC, I still grab the torrents anyway.
I will continue to prefer a seedbox (rented or shared/dedicated vps).
At least I can use private trackers.I’ve never looked into private trackers, tbh, but I may keep an eye out and see what is possible. I’ll stay in with the community and maybe something will pop up, but I’m pretty happy with public. I’ve known my way around torrent safety since '07. The only cease and desist I’ve ever gotten was because of my ex at the time.
From what I understand, private trackers are something that sort of comes to you rather than asking for them. Back when Demonoid was by invite only (I haven’t been there in a long time so I’m not sure how it is now), I made friends with the right people and got in early. I managed to stay in because I was a good seeder and well trusted.
Oh wow, I missed a lot. I guess Deimos went missing? Then it looks like Demonoid got a sort of community fork, but it doesn’t seem to exist anymore. Huh. I’m reading that the fork didn’t focus on private trackers as much as just getting the old crowd back, it seems. Wild how things have changed.
To get in you could in theory join communities like r/openSignups and other similar communities.
The tracker TL will probably open signups soon during Easter.Ohhh! Thank you! Once I can get my Pi NAS going and have ample storage, I’d be extremely interested in archiving eventually. I should honestly start now, seeing as I have a large amount of music. I don’t have many full albums, usually just picking up songs that interest me, but all the metadata is properly tagged using MusicBrainz Picard.
TL has more of a focus on visual media.
Personally I use nyaa for japan/asia focused music, web searches or soulseek for anything else (primarily flac and failback to mp3).
If I feel inclined, I’ll buy the album/tracks.Yeah, I have heard a lot about Soulseek and I’ll have to check it out. That’s another service that I wasn’t aware of until recently. I do need an alternative to ripping off YouTube music soon, but for now it gets the job done. I also have my army of patched and FOSS apps for streaming (never use one; they always have downtimes, so having multiples let you jump around when waiting for fixes).
If you have Spotify, there are tools to rip directly from it (like actually from spotify. Unlike those find on spotify but actually download from youtube tools)
I found a decent GUI ripper for YouTube Music. I was using CLI before, but in this case a GUI was a lot faster. I’ve ripped a lot from Spotify, and I think my newest patched app lets me download directly. I agree, though; 90% of Spotify streaming apps and rippers are just taking from YouTube but using the Spotify indexer.
I’m curious – I’ve looked at this a little in the past, but paused once the payment requirement showed up. Doesn’t feel like it really matters at all about using a VPN or otherwise to try and hide my identity, if there’s a charge on a credit card that proves I use a torrenting service… ? How are people sorting that out, or are we all just pretending you can’t get tracked through a payment?
Honestly I just use my card. They can track my payments, but there’s still nothing outlawing payment (yet) for services and they can’t prove you’re using those services for illegal purposes. However, realdebrid offers payments through crypto, not sure about the other debrid services.
Its so much faster to stream using debrid than over torrent, and as another mentioned here it taxes the network less. I’m 50/50 on it, because I’d much rather promote seeding what you take, but Stremio with the Torrentio addon setup for debrid is the fastest method with the most coherent UI I’ve used to date, and it lets you continue from where you left off, a lot like most streaming services.
re OT question: I remember trying out Azureus a bit back in the day, and with its “legit content distribution” section getting to watch this video:
YouTube - Benny Benassi - Satisfaction
But I didn’t stick with it, mainly used µTorrent and eMule.
lol! Wow, I forgot about this song. I didn’t either. I used it for a while, but I remember something going down with it that caused some anger among users and I went back to uTorrent.
I left the torrent scene for a bit and came back around 2016 using Tixati on Windows. Now I’m on Linux running qbit and that’s probably where I stay.
Yeah, I too remember there was some anger but not the reason for it. Licensing issues, maybe? Anyway, with the kerfuffle, bloat, and Java requirement, it didn’t have enough to keep me from µTorrent.
Also been using qBittorrent for the last few years, on Windows and the last two years on Linux. With search plugins for key sites, so I can avoid the popups that even uBlock Origin can’t prevent.
(Due to an unpatched security vulnerability in the repo version of qB, currently using AppImages of latest versions of both qB and qB-enhanced. Only difference I personally notice is that qB-enhanced follows my system theme, dark.)
I remember azure client (the blue frog one if I’m remembering). It allowed for streaming video files as the torrent was downloading it.
Yeah, I remember the streaming ability. I never used it for that, I liked it because it was more focused on ratios. Then they started enforcing ratios which you could skip by paying. Basically your download rates would be cut unless your ratio was good. My ratio was always high, but I couldn’t really stand how they started muscling people.
I think they tried backpedaling, but most of the scene had already moved back to uTorrent. That’s probably why they changed the name to Vuze. This was all a long time ago though and I’m at the age where I’m finally starting to lose some memory of my younger days. They say it’s downhill from 50, but really its downhill from 30.
You may want to look into other Debrid services as RD has said their going to start removing material (unless something changed since a month or two ago when they announced that, I switched off and stopped paying attention)
Damn, I hate when I find these things out too late, lol. Ah well, hopefully I can squeeze out these 3 months without incident and move to another service. Between AirVPN and RD I seem to be picking the providers that are standing on glass stilts.
Not everyone will start using it just because the price is right, it is a subscription. Also, not everyone wants to stream and forget. There will likely always be seeders of public torrents available especially for popular or mainstream content. You can always revive a dead torrent if you have access to private trackers, usenet, ddl filehosters (debrid supported)
I’d like to do this, to be honest. There are a lot of good torrents from previous generations that are dead and with the newest upsurge of piracy I’d like to see them get a little more limelight again. It seems I have a lot of research and catching up to do in this community.
