A video, discovered on the cellphone of a paramedic who was found along with 14 other aid workers in a mass grave in Gaza in late March, shows that the ambulances and fire truck that they were traveling in were clearly marked and had their emergency signal lights on when Israeli troops hit them with a barrage of gunfire.

  • @merdaverse@lemmy.world
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    996 days ago

    Israel shooting medics, throwing them in a mass grave and then lying about it? Better not talk about it, or we might be labelled as antisemites and/or terrorist supporters.

  • @filister@lemmy.world
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    I am astonished how silent the west is. Why not a single nation is required to conduct independent investigation and require accountability on Israel’s side.

    What happened on the 7th of October was horrible but it is not giving Israel a carte blanche to commit war crimes and crimes against humanity.

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      Repub or Dem no American in power will censure Israel b/c the U.S. will do nothing to jeopardize our military reach there. It’s a sad fact that is at the basis of all of this, and this fundamental misunderstanding cost Kamala a lot of voters

      Everyone wants to pretend it’s satanism or globalism or communism or whatever fucking ism is the bad guy this week but really it’s just that the U.S. refuses to give up willingly the title of ‘world’s best warlord’

    • @MellowYellow13@lemmy.world
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      But also why do you and others in the west keep acting like this started on Oct 7th? Israel has been fucking up Palestine for as long as I can remember.

    • @jimbel@lemm.ee
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      I also wonder what are the israelian citizens doing/thinking? Are they all as extreme as Netanjahu? Or am i just missing their demonstrations against genocide?

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        The Jewish People Policy Institute Israel Index survey found that 8 out of 10 Jewish Israelis agreed with Trump’s proposal of expelling Palestinians from Gaza.

        Forty-three percent of all Israelis said that the expulsion plan was “practical” and should be implemented, while 30 percent said the plan was “desirable” but not practical.

        A minority of 13 percent - made of up 54 percent of Palestinian respondents and just three percent of Jewish Israelis - described the Trump plan as “immoral”.

        https://lemm.ee/post/60088182

        • @dovahking@lemmy.world
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          That’s fucking disgusting. Even at the start of Russian invasion, their citizens were protesting and going to jail for it. Never saw the same from israeli citizens. Guess this explains why.

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        like every population they are mixed, and there have been public protests so at least there is some opposition

        Mostly I think the average person is just low information and agitated with a constant background of fear and confusion, tribalistic and relying on gut feeling over rationality

        There are also some ridiculously greedy and violent bandits that will kill a family for land, but they are in the minority.

    • @Gordon_Shumway_4_POTUS@lemmy.world
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      This is what eventually broke me during the last Trump vs. Biden/Harris election.

      I understand a lot of people shit on (non)voters like me, but it was the first time in 20 years that I could not vote either way. I always thought it would get bad, and then worse, and then worse still, but I honestly thought eventually the Biden Admin would grow a pair of gonads and say “enough”. Right around the time the video was released of Israelis setting Palestinians on fire in the Hospital and the IDF throwing people off of roofs, that’s when just something inside of me died.

      • @filister@lemmy.world
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        And it really boggles my head that you have only two political parties there. Like what the heck, what kind of democracy is this?

        • @pregnantwithrage@lemmy.world
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          It’s not a democracy it’s a representative democracy so basically we have a giant suggestion box that our elected leaders can look at and say “I’ll consider that in my vote in Congress”.

      • @pregnantwithrage@lemmy.world
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        Don’t let people shame you into the lesser of two evils argument because it’s your vote at the end of the day. I heard all sides for the past 10 years now and honestly we got to Trump because of Hillary and not having a party that stood for anything.

        • Dr. Moose
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          It’s not lesser of two evils it’s inaction that’s the issue “the world sucks so let me do absolutely nothing about it whaaaa” just fuck right off to a forest cabin or smt instead of spreading your shit defeatism onto others.

          • @pregnantwithrage@lemmy.world
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            Not what I said. If you think the Democratic party is going to save you than go ahead and keep voting for Chuck Schumer’s fetal position strategy because it’s your vote and you shouldn’t be shamed in voting one way or another same as this guy doing whatever he wants with his vote. That’s it.

          • @hark@lemmy.world
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            You mean like how democrats love to claim their hands are tied on any issue that benefits the common person? Pointing out that electoralism hasn’t worked isn’t defeatism, it’s recognizing reality.

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            Your right wing democrats aint gonna do fucking shit. They cant even stand up to Trump. They are the ones literally doing nothing and just standing back

  • @Grizzlyboy@lemm.ee
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    Israel will claim anything to not seem like genocidal maniacs. Seriously, fuck Netanyahu. The arrogance of killing CLEARLY marked aid workers, and claiming they weren’t marked is baffling.

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    the paramedic who filmed the video was later found with a bullet in his head in the mass grave. His name has not been disclosed yet because he has relatives living in Gaza concerned about Israeli retaliation

    “We killed your son, and it came to light, so now we’re going to kill you.”

    It’s truly hard to fathom the depth of evil in isreal right now. And we’re fucking funding it. We’re arming them, and paying them to continue. Meanwhile AIPAC continues to fund primaries against our politicians that speak out. The US is a fucking joke.

    • @PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee
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      Don’t forget, the US pays for Israel is to come to the US to train their police departments into believing that every civilian is basically a terrorist that needs to be killed.

  • @HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works
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    I’d like to know how all of us watching Israel kill thousands of Palestinians - and we do nothing to stop it - is any different than the world watching Germany kill Jews, gypsies, Poles, scientists, etc in WW2?

    There. Is. No. Fucking. Difference.

      • @pulsewidth@lemmy.world
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        USA was profiting quite nicely off Nazi Germany in World War 2 right up until the USA entered the war in 1941. Some historians argue there is nothing wrong with that. I think many would disagree.

        The US government at the time was lobbied heavily by business and private citizens (including the Nazi Party of America) to stay neutral in the war, so they largely did just that right up until Pearl Harbour made it so they could not turn away. There were exceptions, eg: oil and metals used for creating ammunition were agreed not to be sold as part of the Allied Agreement with the UK (and others) and boats coming in and out were blockaded. But even that didn’t stop big fans of fascism, such as the Texaco CEO at the time whom supplied oil to the Nazis up until late 1940.

        So, honestly I don’t think a lot has changed.

        I guess the US government wasn’t directly funding WW2, but they also didn’t care one bit until it affected them directly - it was making their donors money. Paralleled today the US govt at large doesn’t care, and primarily funds Israel for two reasons: protecting their oil interests in the middle east (business donors and strategic benefits), and every dollar provided in the budget is actually a voucher to go buy some weapons or military equipment from a US firm - so again, its to cynically drive military-industrial investment (strategic) and protect their business donors.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_collaboration_with_Nazi_Germany

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torkild_Rieber

        • @ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
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          so they largely did just that right up until Pearl Harbor made it so they could not turn away

          FWIW we (the United States) could conceivably have gone on turning away from what Germany was doing even after Pearl Harbor (although that was unlikely given Roosevelt’s anti-Germany stance). Hitler declared war on the US on December 11th, not the other way around.

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            Yeah, even in my excessively long reply to a one sentence comment I was skipping over a lot of information for brevity, and I’m not a historian. My point was only to illuminate that the US stance pre-WW2 involvement was not dissimilar to today’s - broadly the govt doesnt care that people suffer even to the point of genocide now nor then, as long as national interests (basically business and economy) are unimpeded.

            Thanks for the added info.

    • @Gordon_Shumway_4_POTUS@lemmy.world
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      One of the things I say to my Jewish friends and family is, “explain to me how what Israel is doing - like cutting off food, water and medicine to an entire population of civilians it keeps in a ghetto is anything different that what the national socialist Germans did to the Warsaw Ghetto, because it looks like the exact same thing to me.”

  • @thedruid@lemmy.world
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    somehow this went from defending themselves against terrorist’s, to them becoming terrorists as well

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      As well as withholding humanitarian aid and medical supplies during an ongoing war. But apparently no one cares about international law anymore or they do care selectively depending on the nation committing the war crimes.

  • Rymrgand's Daughter
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    The IDF is bombing UN buildings and people are still waffling on calling Israel a terrorist nation is hilarious.

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    At first a crime, then doubling down on the crime and making it a massacre, then destroying evidence and lying to everyone about the circumstances…

    …I do wonder if there’s something else the IDF needs to accomplish, for some countries to reconsider their support to Israel.

    • @pulsewidth@lemmy.world
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      I lay the blame at the IDF and their far-right Likud government who has openly said they will protect any IDF soldiers accused of war crimes.

      I don’t wish to tar a whole country with the same brush.

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    On a similar article, a lot of people on reddit were saying that they could be terrorist on disguise, therefore is on to kill them (attempt to) ask, and that’s all good as per Geneva convention.

    My reply was deleted, my account banned and my will to stay on that platforms eliminated.

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      Zionists bending over backwards rationalizing their war crimes as just anti-terrorist attacks while they are invading another country is the ultimate mental 4D chess.

    • @GreyAlien@lemm.eeOP
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      reddit is absolutely unusable.

      I got banned for similar behavior, but I still lurk there sometimes. Recently I read an upvoted comment along the lines of: “I would rather have the Nazi for government than live with these hamas supporters and wokists.”

      There are hundreds of other examples of how biased toward fascism this platform has become. From my understanding, many moderators of large subreddits (e.g., r/worldnews, r/mapporn, r/news, r/geopolitics) have been purged and replaced with state-affiliated actors like literal IOF soldiers.

      ʕ ͡° ʖ̯ ͡°ʔ u/maxwellhill

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        Don’t worry, you would have also been banned if you had depicted israelis suffering the same abuse at the hands of Palestinians. They REALLY don’t like to imagine that.

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    Awesome to have these two headlines right next to each other in my feed:

    Video Shows Aid Workers Killed in Gaza Under Gunfire Barrage, With Ambulance Lights On

    Senate Democrats overwhelmingly reject restricting US arms sales to Israel

    the US Senate has resoundingly voted in support of continuing the genocide in Gaza by rejecting two resolutions aimed at blocking some $9 billion in weapons to the Israeli government.

    Cory Booker, recently hailed in the corporate press for talking for 25 hours straight on the Senate floor—without blocking a vote on legislation or a Trump judicial nomination—voted against both resolutions.

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    A colleague lost his brother with this convoy. The path / location of the convoy was shared with the israelis too. They were executed and the vehicles completely destroyed.