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@cm0002@lemmy.world to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish • 1 month ago

Coin-sized nuclear 3V battery with 50-year lifespan enters mass production

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Coin-sized nuclear 3V battery with 50-year lifespan enters mass production

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  • @ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    100 microwatts

    This is a very important spec to include…this battery can deliver 0.03mA of power, which is incredibly little.

    • @GamingChairModel@lemmy.world
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      this battery can deliver 0.03mA of power

      0.03mA of current. That times the 3 volts = 0.1 mW of power.

      • @frezik@midwest.social
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        17•1 month ago

        Technology Connections, we need you to make another video.

    • @sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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      15•1 month ago

      Should be plenty for watches and IOT devices.

      • @Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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        Google says a Casio watch needs .004mA so not quite enough.

        • @dnick@sh.itjust.works
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          Did you typo or did he? .03 is significantly bigger than .004

        • Libra00
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          0.03 is 7.5x more than 0.004 tho?

          • @Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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            12•1 month ago

            You are right! I didn’t count the 0’s!

        • @sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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          That’s definitely in the ballpark though. Surely they could cut 25% power draw to support a 50 year battery.

        • @mesamunefire@lemmy.world
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          I wonder how much we really need for a clock (555 eq) to work?

          • @piecat@lemmy.world
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            https://www.ti.com/lit/gpn/LM555

            2mA minimum, and that’s just q current. It’s gonna be much higher when you’re actually using it for a clock.

            I’m sure the casio’s main power sink is the display. I bet the refresh rate could be reduced for better battery life.

            • @Tangent5280@lemmy.world
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              Isnt the refresh rate just 1 Hz?

              • @piecat@lemmy.world
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                Yep.

          • @cubism_pitta@lemmy.world
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            A lot more than that. 2ma

            Analog circuits are weird though

            https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/ne555.pdf

      • @ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Not really actually…not from a single cell at least

        • @sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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          Why not?

          A CR2032 has 235 mAh, which I believe Casio watches use, and their batteries last 5-7 years. So, if we divide that out, that’s something like 5-6 microamps (235 mAh / 5 years / 365 years / 24 hours * 1000 = 5.36… microamps). Converting this to watts @ 3v: 15-18 microwatts.

          I think that math is correct (this question reaches a similar conclusion), and it leaves some headroom as well.

          If you remove RF from the equation (Bluetooth, WiFi, etc) and custom build the chip, you can get some very low power draws. If all you’re doing is sampling temps or something, you could send an update periodically over serial or something and fit under 100microwatts or so. You could probably even do RF if you have a large enough cap and send once it charges.

          • @ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            CR2032s are used in many things that require significantly more power than that, and this cell is absolutely unfit for almost all other uses than barebones old school digital watches.

            • @sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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              Sure. I’m not saying it’s a drop-in replacement, just that it has a number of applications. A simple digital watch or even a bare bones IOT device (with periodic serial signaling) could work well with it. You’d essentially set it up once and you’ll forget it’s still there many years later.

        • @cubism_pitta@lemmy.world
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          Cell != Battery

          Battery = MANY Cells

          I am not correcting you just hate the headline.

          If you made a battery with 666(667 if we round up) of these you could supply 2ma of power at 3v for 50 years!

          I don’t have sizes available so assuming 2032 sized batteries… If you stacked them that would be over 2meters tall.

          With further advancement these could be viable

    • @reksas@sopuli.xyz
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      2•1 month ago

      what kind of things could you power with that amount?

      • @frezik@midwest.social
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        An RTC that you want to leave on its own for a very long time. Like underwater.

  • @SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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    Are these ones ocean disposable like lead acid batteries?

    • @pHr34kY@lemmy.world
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      Someone’s gotta charge the eels.

    • @Glitterbomb@lemmy.world
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      These types of batteries are called wafer batteries because you just eat them

      • @SplashJackson@lemmy.ca
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        It’s wafer thin

  • @frezik@midwest.social
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    These aren’t new.

    https://youtu.be/nEmO8DcOap4

    They have tiny current output. Only suitable for a few niche applications. The company’s claim to fame is making them cheaper, but don’t expect much.

  • @darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    You had me at “nuclear”.

    • @sbv@sh.itjust.works
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      3•1 month ago

      and “enters” ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )

  • @rebelflesh@lemm.ee
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    Read the article guys, yes it is extremely low amperage how ever they are meant to be used in parallel, as you would expect, you use this right now in real life applications I don’t see the niche part but 5 cels the size of a nikle can power most iot micro nodes.

  • WheelchairArtist
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    yay nuclearwaste for everybody 🥳

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