Decades of history burned by one asshole.
…and also thousands of enablers in every branch of government, every boardroom, and every newsroom.
Don’t forget the millions of voters as well
This is the important part.
The whole world suffered trump’s first term as a sort of scam that many confused, struggling Americans fell for.
But then y’all go and do it a second time? Fuck you.
What do they say? Fool me once, shame on you…
…can’t get fooled again!
And millions who didn’t vote for him but also didn’t protest his actions.
Imagine how Canadians may feel upon seeing their “friends” go along with Trump’s actions.
Congrats to all the American leftists who refused to vote against trump because they convinced themselves both sides were the same
to all the American
leftistsuseless idiots who refused to vote against trumpFTFY. Voting against trumpy was the easiest decision for anybody who opposes fascism.
From Europe, I see the republicans as a stick and the democrats as a carrot.
You are angry because people refused to vote against the stick, and I understand why, it makes sense.
At the same time, it’s easy to understand that there are people against the carrot&stick system, and I wouldn’t consider them useless idiots for not voting for the carrot.
Also, the carrot is fucking stale.I consider enabling the “stick” to be beat the fuck out of you just because you’re “not into carrots” to be objectively stupid. I’m a Euro transplant and I can’t see how it is less stupid from a European perspective. The saddest part is that my wife and I have recession-proof professions, people who got us into this situation don’t.
The good news, if you can call it good news, is that Trump and co are so evil, and incompetent, that it’s waking people up to the awful system they live under.
Harris and The Democrats would’ve been able to continue with business as usual and nothing would change. At least now there’s some hope of a left surge in the wake of all this right wing hatred, pain, and suffering
Some surge? Maybe?
Any reasonable amount that will make a damned but if difference? Yeah no it won’t. People never learn. Even when they suffer under something they will claim it happened because of that thing over there. People won’t change.
Kamala wouldn’t have won if she got the entire 3rd party vote
There were also 90 million non-voters.
Unfortunately, most of them are not the leftists mentioned at the top of this thread.
A fact that nobody who voted that way could have possibly known ahead of time.
I’d imagine people in democratic strongholds knew their votes weren’t going to make a difference for their state, within a confidence interval.
It’s not one, at least half of our federal government is behind this and is signing off/agreeing with this.
I wonder if this and others will force US rebuilding efforts to include governmental reform if and when Trump is out. No amount of Obamas can reassure people the US isn’t just going to flip out the left time it changes hands again.
Sadly i don’t think that will happen unless there is a substantial degradation of the quality of life in red states. The failure and the cause needs to be so mind numbingly apparently to even the most entrenched Trump supporter that they actually force their representative to join in on real reform. Unfortunately if we do have another election and control switches it’s most likely going to still have 40% or more of the voting population have political blindness. Farmers will lose their farms and still vote Republican.
ok so thats cool and all but how do we join? washington oregon california want in
You fix your mess internally, do something to deal with your government besides complain… In the other western countries we are starting to adjust to the US no longer being part of the club… act before we get used to that concept.
!general@50501.chat. Protest. Join your local Tesla Takedown. 5 calls. Buy Canadian.
Americans should start boycotting red state’s agricultural/liquor products hard.
Step one is to secede from the US. You aren’t actually going to be part of Canada, but an EU style arrangement in North America could happen.
you can’t You’re basically fucked
The fascists want you to give up. Do not let them win.
You aren’t like us and we don’t want you, harsh but for the best
Imagine californians buying up all of Vancouver Island for example. No thanks
Elect progressives, enact progressive policies and then apply i guess! I’d be happy to have states aligned with our values join canada
We really dont want your states. We dont like American culture. Its led to whatever the fuck you have going on down there.
those are words of a politician. This is what “sells” today. We’ll need to see very specific actions to back it up. Thus far most politicians shown lack of spine and would turn on a dime at first opportunity. Canada could’ve been “divorced” from US for over a decade now when Cretien hinted at desire to move in that direction… but nope, here we are overdependant on US and thumping our chests “never again”.
We’ve always known our growing interdependence is a risk, but there’s been many benefits and decades of good experience. Occasionally, the US has done things that have slowed this progression and has made many of us wary while some (especially business leaders in sectors such as oils and gas) insisting it’s silly paranoia.
For politicians to make such a major move, there has to be a strong interest or concern amongst electorate. In a matter of weeks, Trump obliterated the idea that this is silly paranoia, and there’s a strong sense of halt! Fuck no! reverse, hard! So I think it is completely different this time.lets hope it “sticks”. Any class in economics say “diversify your portfolio”, Canada needs just that. 10% hit is less than 90% hit if you’re dealing with multiple partners.
probably for the best
Pierre 2025, save our country from another liberal failure.
Poilievre is Canada’s right-wing aligned with Trump. He will sell us out.
Dudes said nothing but the complete opposite the entire time he’s been leader of the opposition. Bring jobs to Canada, Canada first, ect. This is made up bullshit that he would “sell out” anything.
