• @seven_phone@lemmy.world
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    1922 months ago

    He can not seem to grasp that your enemy is allowed to fight back and if you make enemies of friends eventually that is all you will have.

    • char_stats
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      He can not seem to grasp

      …anything, really. And his closest henchmen know this well, too! Just read the entire chat on Signal.

      They’re just using him because he pulls (or used to pull) public consensus, while working around his bullshits.

      • @deadfatquarterzip@lemm.ee
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        232 months ago

        He’s just gone. Nothing’s going on upstairs. I sometimes think of an ancient clip of Ali G trying to sell him some kind of ice cream glove and there was enough brainpower to realize it was bullshit and try to get out of that situation. Now tho, there is nothing there. He doesn’t grasp the most basic things.

    • @JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca
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      I’m not condoning it, but he sees this his original actions as retaliation. Or purports to see this as retaliation. Sigh.

      Edit for clarity

      • @floofloof@lemmy.ca
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        Just like how Putin sees Russia’s invasion of Ukraine as retaliation, or claims to. Great minds think alike, I guess.

  • @SomethingBlack@lemmy.world
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    1042 months ago

    It’s like he can’t comprehend that other people would react to his actions.

    He raised tariffs, other nations reduced trade with the US and looked elsewhere. If he continues to raise tariffs it will inevitably cause the US to be isolated in trade.

    It’s not even a shocking/daring tactic, it’s a self destructive tantrum because his misunderstanding has led to mismanagement and now he’s doubling down

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        162 months ago

        It’s like someone showed him a plastic toy mallet and it’s the only tool he’s aware of in his toolbox.

    • @WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world
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      It’s a move to spur domestic manufacturing and move the US to Autarky — straight out of Hitler’s playbook; albeit an incompetent attempt because he’s a mentally challenged degenerate.

      Autarky isn’t bad — covid highlighted the weaknesses that capitalism and globalism created for every economy — but Trumps goals are not risk mitigation or “national security”, and he certainly intends for it to enable imperialist wars and conquests. The fact is the allies won WW2 largely because of US manufacturing capacity (Europes was destroyed). China could take Taiwan tomorrow and the world would have to let them as we are entirely reliant on Chinese manufacturing; they could cripple us if they halted exports.

      • @SomethingBlack@lemmy.world
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        102 months ago

        I agree with almost everything here, but I don’t think an embargo on China would be as damaging as you think it would.

        It would hurt, don’t get me wrong, but China is largely in the position it is now because the developed world was looking for cheap labour and China fit the bill. There is no lack of underdeveloped nations who would gladly shift their economy if it meant they could support a fraction of the manufacturing supply that China currently commands. Africa and South America (not a single nation, I know but this is true of many African and South American nations so I’m combining for simplicity’s sake) is positioned both politically and geographically, to be a sudo-China in terms of manufacturing if the wider world decides to embargo China-proper.

        The US and EU pulling out of China would devastated them far more than it would affect the former. I’d like to think that the EU at least, would be willing to withstand some economic damage to aid another nation in need.

        • @baldingpudenda@lemmy.world
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          62 months ago

          I’m not well read on india’s modern manufacturing capabilities, but I do know that they have been trying for a while to up their manufacturing exports and entice jobs that would normally go to china. 1 billion ppl is a competitive sized workforce.

          If America and EU needed an immediate substitute, india could fit the bill.

          • @SomethingBlack@lemmy.world
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            52 months ago

            This is exactly it. There are plenty of options, removing what is currently the best option just means picking the next best and so on and so on until we reach stability

        • @seejur@lemmy.world
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          12 months ago

          Not really, for the same reasons Russia’s economy is now in the shitter: sure they could sell oil to another country, but changing the whole infrastructure is not something that can be done in days. Same with moving the whole production of goods to a completely new country.

          Also consider that nowadays western countries have lost the knowhow to produce efficiently goods (while their service industry still remains unmatched)

          • @SomethingBlack@lemmy.world
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            02 months ago

            I can see the point your making. I’m not suggesting it’d be easy but if we moving to Russia as the example Russia would be the standin for China, not the wider world.

            Russia’s economy is now shit because they got embargoed, as China’s would be, it hurt the wider world briefly, but that has mostly passed.

            And I didn’t suggest western countries take on the brunt of the manufacturing, I suggested it should be countries that would benefit from the overhaul to their economy

    • @Glide@lemmy.ca
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      202 months ago

      To be fair, if you look at it from the perspective of a narcissist who has never been told “no” his entire life, it makes perfect sense.

    • @Vikthor@lemmy.world
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      02 months ago

      it will inevitably cause the US to be isolated in trade

      That’s the goal. He isn’t a Kremlin asset, he is a Pyongyang asset, implementing Juche in the US ;)

  • @Octavio@lemmy.world
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    882 months ago

    “If you guys damage the US economy, I will do even more damage to the US economy.”

    —stable genius

  • Phoenixz
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    862 months ago

    do economic harm to the US

    … Like the economic harm you’re doing to Europe and Canada?

    You’re literally that bully that’s starts screaming “don’t hit ME!” when the victims punch back

    • Tuukka R
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      142 months ago

      I would be surprised if Donald hadn’t done precisely that in its childhood.

  • @CircaV@lemmy.ca
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    762 months ago

    US: Bashes Canada for no reason. Starts a trade war.

    Canada: Makes new trade partners.

    US: Canada how dare you find other trade partners! Come back here so I can bash you again!

    • @sik0fewl@lemmy.ca
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      112 months ago

      Yes, he’s creating chaos so that robber barons can capitalize on it to grow their own wealth at the cost of everyone else’s

      He’s destroying international relationships to remove US superpower status, to give more regional hegemony to Russia and China (probably just Russia, China gets it for free).

      And he’s displacing the US dollar as the global currency. Contributes to the first two items and has long term effects on their global hegemony.

  • @pyre@lemmy.world
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    do it, cunt. the US relies on the EU and its neighbors way more than they rely on the US. you don’t even make shit anymore, and whatever you do make isn’t up to standards anyway. no one needs the US.

    • @Fluke@lemm.ee
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      202 months ago

      The only thing the US exports is tax avoiding, minimum viable product supplying, data collection companies.

      Not only does the rest of the world not need that shit, they’re better off without it.

      Fuck the US and everything it has come to stand for.

  • MentalEdge
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    Next, I’ll use a shotgun, and aim for my entire leg instead of just the foot!!

  • @pleasegoaway@lemm.ee
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    352 months ago

    The trump regime’s only purpose is to TANK the US economy so that stocks, businesses, and industries can be bought by billionaires at rock bottom prices.

    • @Wanpieserino@lemm.ee
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      They are the ones already owning the companies. It’s not like the middle class had much of the ownership lol

      “The bottom 90% of Americans own approximately 7% to 11% of all stocks. This highlights the significant concentration of stock ownership among the wealthiest individuals in the U.S. .”

      Trump is hurting the rich. Which is hilarious because it’s not like he has anyone else’s interests in mind ahahaha

      Oh yeah, his top buddy Putin

      • @pleasegoaway@lemm.ee
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        42 months ago

        The wealthy can always try to own more.

        Each time this happens, it’s another transfer of wealth from the bottom to the top.

        The top takes more, and the bottom has to fight amongst themselves for a smaller and smaller piece of the pie.

  • @melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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    352 months ago

    Trump fucks everything up forcing nations to find other economic alternatives then says I will destroy you if you work together. This is the plot of a bad 70’s comic book.

    • @MehBlah@lemmy.world
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      132 months ago

      Once people find or develop those alternatives they wont be back for at least a few generations. Trump doesn’t understand that other countries can and will find a replacement for US goods and if necessary US customers. I’m sure though some who are in the right position are ready to exploit this for their own gain. Trump is more than a fool he is a tool.

        • @MehBlah@lemmy.world
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          32 months ago

          Trumps wealth depends on him keeping the GOP on his side. The second he loses his lock on them his future is very uncertain. He is already losing more and more ground with the people and unless he can do the old brown shirt thing like hitler in four years he is out.

          • @tacobellhop@midwest.social
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            22 months ago

            He’s Hindenburg his whole job is setting up the next Hitler. That’s his plan anyway. You can see on his face he already knows how this ends for him.

  • @Allonzee@lemmy.world
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    Yet another thing that is beyond our willfully ignorant American Republican’s comprehension.

    Adults cooperate with others who are open to mutually beneficial cooperation. Babies (and largely seniors past 70 as we become very similar to our sunrise at the sunset of life) kick and scream demanding to get their way the way they want it.

    I’m a 40 year old manchild who collects movie props and even I know that.

    • @BlackSheep@lemmy.ca
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      52 months ago

      Please don’t include all seniors. While I can’t speak for all seniors, I am very much from a generation that took to the streets fighting against social injustice. PLEASE don’t generation shame/blame. It’s just another divide and conquer tactic.

    • pancakes
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      42 months ago

      It would be sweet if we could create some trade/ military alliance similar to the EU between the ol’ Commonwealth gang.