The game is lietarlly half cooked, and they clearly wanted to sell the other half piecemeal as DLC.
The game literally only has 3 eras. Every other civ game has 6.
But don’t worry, they’re adding Mount Everest.
What a fucking joke
I’ll pick up Civ 7 in a few years when I can get the full pack for a reasonable price. It’s the way Civ works.
The game isn’t even done yet from what I can tell from streams. I’ll definitely wait for the full game with all the dlc.
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Same with Paradox games. 4X in general is just really hard to get right on release because of how many interlinking systems there are, so waiting for balance updates at a minimum is never a bad idea.
Isn’t this the rule with every civ launch? They’re all somewhat half-baked on launch (although 7 admittedly looks quite a bit less baked than the others).
That said, I feel Civ formula seems to be in decline. To me Call To Power was peak civ ( yeah, fight me ), but while 3,4 and 5 were great “second-bests”, I couldn’t really get into 6 and I’m not really planning on playing 7 ( not with this 3-age format anyway ).
At a certain point they’re beating a dead horse. Outside of graphical updates (which I thought the cartoon-y look of the leaders in civ 6 was a huge downgrade), the core gameplay is still mostly the same throughout the series.
I watched a video on civ 7 and it seems like they really tried to shake up a lot in the game, I think for this reason that they needed to try something fresh to stay relevant. But really this is to its detriment rather than benefit.
I’m not sure if the three age thing is to “even the playfield” on those marathon long sessions when one civ runs away with the ball so to speak, but really that’s one of my favorite parts of the series. Like it’s awesome to take out some cavemen with navy seals or launch nukes when everyone is cowering in fear. If everything gets massively reset, then why even try to get ahead? I’ve not played the game so there could be more nuance but that’s my general impression.
The part that turned me off is it is a complete rip off of Humankind, which was okay but got stale for me pretty quick.
Yeah releasing an unfinished game without any exciting new changes and adding more dlc each iteration has been killing new civ releases and burning many long term fans who get hyped for a new civ. Paradox, Ubisoft, MicroProse, etc pull the same predatory monetization shit and when the price tag is 70 USD their half baked, missing ingredients cake just doesn’t look appetizing to most.
No ghandi = fuck you.
You know they’re going to bring him back as DLC
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I’m not paying $120 Australian for it no matter how improved it is
Yeah that’s honestly the main thing for me too. It’s $120 Canadian for the Deluxe version. My price point is like… $30, especially since by all accounts it’s not even finished.
Has there ever been a finished civ game on launch since DLC existed?
Why would you ever buy the deluxe version of any game?
Civ6 still isn’t in a state that I’m happy with playing it over civ 5, or even civ4. What makes them think I’d give civ7 the time of day?
should have kept that Luigi kid as QA
As the article says, it’s history repeating itself. This one made more foundational changes to the formula than 6 did over 5, and once again, if you’re looking to play a Civ game, the old game is still going to be cheaper. I loved 6 when it came out, but when friends were curious about dipping their toes in, I just referred them to 5 because it was almost as good and far cheaper to try out. Civ 6 charts compared to 5 around the same time period are similar. I haven’t picked up 7 yet just because I’m still trying to get through other games, but I’m looking forward to it.
Civ 7 is out?
Holy shit, 5 is 15 years old now?! It still feels new. How old is 3?! Because that is my first civ
My first was Civ1 and I’ve played hell out of bith 1 and 3. Perhaps feel the same about 3 as you about 5.
Has there even been a Civ release that was great at the start? I had the old Civ 2 “Multiplayer Gold Edition,” which my friend, who had the original, said had a much better AI. Give it a little while and see what they can do to make Civ 7 better, then it’ll sell well.
I’m still playing 4
Me too. It’s still the best and the most moddable.
Realism Invictus* amazing mod for 4. Many other great mods also!
I never even knew you could mod it
When this game came out, took it as my cue to buy Civ 6 + the DLCs.
Bring back the UI team from 6 and I’m sold.
