• @frazw@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I’m glad Europe is backing him.

    It was hugely ironic that Trump and Vance sat and told Zelensky how things are based on what they’ve watched on TV, cutting off his attempts to correct them and then called him disrespectful.

    It had the feeling of a pupil reporting to the headmasters office for punishment for fighting back against a bully. The headmaster didn’t need to hear his side of the story because violence is not the answer.

    I’m conscious that an analogy like this can appear insensitive and diminish the whole thing. Especially as Zelensky tried to say several times. “I’m not playing cards” when Trump made analogies about “you don’t have the cards right now.”

    • @torrentialgrain@lemm.ee
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      2 months ago

      The key to understanding what’s happening right now is (imo):

      • Trump has a deep admiration for dictators, going back decades. This is well documented. Putin is a role model for the way he wants to govern (and see himself, actually).

      • Zelensky not complying with Trumps extortion to find dirt on Hunter Biden led to his first impeachment. Trump is seeking revenge for that. In fact he said publicly that he would seek revenge on all the people that wronged him (in his mind at least). He is out to punish his enemies and Zelensky is high on that list.

      Europe needs to realize that in the span of little over one month, the US turned from its most important ally to a hostile nation - and potentially an enemy.

    • @notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world
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      12 months ago

      It was hugely ironic that Trump and Vance sat and told Zelensky how things are based on what they’ve watched on TV, cutting off his attempts to correct them and then called him disrespectful.

      To me the more surprising thing was that trimp is clueless and classless, but TBH I expected Vance to give us much more sophisticated theater. It was pretty lame and transparent.

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      12 months ago

      For Trump Zelensky was there to kiss the ring and be humiliated in light mental BDSM session to please Trumps kingly ego.

      I don’t think Zelensky was planning to sign anything, but was still there with a hope.

  • @Bonifratz@lemm.ee
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    202 months ago

    I’m convinced these events will permanently change the role of the US in the world. I checked all of Germany’s major newspapers (progressive and conservative) and they all agree that Europe can’t rely on the US anymore and will have to fend for itself and/or find new partners. I don’t doubt it’s the same in other major European countries. This might well be the start of the end of US hegemony. I sure hope that whatever new world order we move into isn’t worse than the one we had, and that the changes go over without additional war.

    • @dlatch@lemmy.world
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      92 months ago

      We’re witnessing the collapse of the “American empire” similar to how the Roman empire or any other historical world power collapsed. These events will be in the history books for centuries to come.