I know YouTube is a terrible provider of pirated content and also that it is almost impossible to pirate without a VPN, but I would like to know: if I download a movie from YouTube (directly from it, of course) without a VPN, will I receive “that type of message” from my ISP?
nope. the ISPs track torrent downloads is by leeching off of the popular public ones, and checking if any of the peers have IPs that belong to them. not by analyzing each customer’s traffic individually.
downloading a video off youtube makes a simple HTTP download which wont trip any ISP alerts. especially since it’s a trusted domain like Youtube
YouTube is going to be better than that since it will be https and thus tls encrypted. The only thing your ISP sees is that you transferred something from youtube.
Most ISPs don’t do that, content owners do then send complaints to the ISP who forwards them to the user. ISPs aren’t going to spend money on losing a customer.
You should not. The biggest thing that will get you in trouble is the uploading portion of torrenting, which is why it is always recommended to use a VPN when torrenting any copyrighted content.
In your case, the traffic will roughly look like you were just watching the movie on YouTube, just really fast.
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No. Direct downloading from YouTube isn’t the same as pirating.
Your ISP cannot differentiate between weather the YouTube app is streaming the video or any program is downloading the video.
So don’t worry about it.
Your ISP cannot differentiate between weather the YouTube app is streaming the video or any program is downloading the video.
No to be pedantic, but this isn’t true. If you’re watching via the YouTube app, the content is served via chunks, and not in one continuous stream. I’m sure it would depend on the ISP, but they could potentially be able to differentiate the two.
yt-dlp streams those chunks into the final file tbh so it should be fine.I was wrong about this part. I doubt the isp would do anything about it though, just for different reasons
yt-dlp streams those chunks into the final file
This is entirely incorrect;
--http-chunk-size SIZE Size of a chunk for chunk-based HTTP downloading, e.g. 10485760 or 10M (default is disabled).Chunks are disabled by default with yt-dlp. You’re thinking of fragments, which are not how the video file is captured, just how its saved.
I was basing what I said on the http.py file:
while True: try: # Download and write data_block = ctx.data.read(block_size if not is_test else min(block_size, data_len - byte_counter)) except TransportError as err: retry(err) byte_counter += len(data_block)I might still be wrong but that’s how I thought it downloaded any video file over http
Edit. After reading the code a bit more I see that you were correct.
Regarding that argument: Basically throttle the download to watch time (e.g. 5mbps for 1080p).
This way it would look like it’s constantly refreshing the buffer.Not that anyone would care
I believe the request to the server is the same as if you were watching it. It just runs the file from their server to your browser, with yt-dlp it sends a request to the server file the same way a browser does. You can view the source code which is well commented if you are able to understand python. The function is in yt-dlp/downloader/http.pyAfter rereading the code, it’s not quite the same but I wouldn’t worry about the isp
No, I’ve never received one from that, I don’t think YouTube actually knows you’re downloading it. Just speculation though.
First, unless you redistribute the video (esp. for profit), you should have nothing to worry about.
Now, for the educational portion of our program:
Unless your ISP censors internet traffic, it is absolutely possible to pirate without a VPN. Barring censorship, your ISP usually doesn’t give two shits about what your traffic is as long as your bill is paid. Those letters they send are in response to a lawyer notifying them that an IP address was found to be distributing copyrighted material.
Companies obtain these IP addresses by “pirating” their own material and recording the IP addresses of any seeders they find. If this IP address belongs to a VPN service that doesn’t keep logs, they cannot be in possession of said material. Additionally, they have no way of knowing what traffic went to which customer after the fact. So, any letters sent by lawyers to the VPN service are pointless. Which is why, if you have a good VPN, they can’t trace it back to you.
It’s not impossible to pirate without a VPN, just use Usenet. Until a couple months ago when I had some free time and was super super bored, I hadn’t even bothered to tell SABnzbd to use a VPN. Over two ISPs and however many hundreds of episodes and movies watched, I never got any letters. Likewise, you usually are pretty safe on private torrent trackers, because copyright trolls don’t like putting in the effort of maintaining access.
