• @neidu3@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    With my favorite band, every new record was “not as good as what came before”. But after getting used to, it got there as well.

    I have concluded that familiarity brings a feeling of quality in music.

    It takes a while to learn the minutia of what makes a particular song great. And the more complex and lengthy a song is, the longer it takes to fully appreciate it.

    • Natanox
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      33 months ago

      Can’t confirm. Of course the first time you listen to a new song isn’t the same since you don’t know what to expect, but from then on you can vibe to it even better for a while since it’s new. I’d even assume this is the reason for the “repeat song” feature and why some people listen to a single new song for hours.

      Dunno, I have a hard time understanding your perspective.

    • @TheFriar@lemm.ee
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      33 months ago

      Yeah, people who can only get into the old shit just have a hard time letting go of the past. Live a little, friends.

      (That said, there are some bands who peaked a long time ago, are going on reunion tours, and yeah, usually the new stuff sucks.)

    • @wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works
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      3 months ago

      While they aren’t generally stylistically complex, some songs with complex nonsense lyrics seem, at least to me as a young American, to be the ones that are simultaneously easiest to appreciate for a great many people, and also have huge staying power, despite being quite old. For example:
      American Pie
      Hotel California
      We Didn’t Start the Fire
      Don’t Stop Believing
      Bohemian Rhapsody (or, really, most things by Queen)

      These, at least among the places I’ve been here in America, are the ones to which everyone in the bar starts singing along. Sure, these have underlying meaning, or make references to specific events, but in my experience, most of the people I hear singing and dancing to these have no idea what they’re referencing, and often don’t even know the words. Perhaps it is simply that they are so overplayed that they get those “multiple listens” of which you speak? Or is there something inherently compelling in the seeking of meaning in complex, random lyrics, such that people are immediately drawn in?

  • defunct_punk
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    273 months ago

    I’ve never understood this attitude but I also don’t see legacy acts. Why wouldn’t I want to hear a band’s new stuff?

  • @Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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    233 months ago

    Counterpoint:

    “This next one is the first song on our new album which just came out this week. It’s called Surrender.”

    Cheap Trick Live at Budokan!

    • @Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de
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      33 months ago

      The internet continues to be a humbling experience lol. I literally had this same thought when reading the comic, and I wasn’t even looking for it in the comments because I thought it was too obscure

    • @mPony@lemmy.world
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      23 months ago

      yeah but performing it right after I Want You To Want Me? It would be very “new vibe” if they recorded it in North America. (assuming that was an accurate performance order and not rearranged in post)

      but the audience at Budokan? They’re going absolutely bonkers the entire time. It’s so great.

        • @mPony@lemmy.world
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          13 months ago

          yes, the studio recording of IWYTWM came out a year earlier.
          On Live At Budokan, side 2 starts with IWYTWM, and then you immediately hear “This next one…” as they introduce their brand new song Surrender.

          • @Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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            13 months ago

            But the meme is about being at a concert, not listening to an album. Live at Budokan is edited from their performance at Osaka. In that performance, “Surrender” came before “I want you to want me.”

  • @Klear@sh.itjust.works
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    A couple of years ago I was at an Asian Dub Foundation concert and at the end they played a fresh new song to the point the singer had the lyrics pulled up in his phone and rapped from that, because he wasn’t sure he’d not mess it up.

    It was awesome and very endearing.

    • @ecvanalog@lemmy.world
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      23 months ago

      I love that. I get a huge dopamine hit from the novelty of seeing a new (or rare) song performed…but then I tend to obsess on a few acts rather than having a lot of bands I might go see.

  • @reboot6675@sopuli.xyz
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    103 months ago

    Usually artists go on tour after releasing a new album, to promote said album. So of course they’re going to play new stuff.

    The ideal for me is a good balance. Some new songs mixed with the classics.

  • I have discovered the objective of musicians is to create a popular enough discography that you never have to write new music again. It certainly isn’t their objective when they’re starting out, but any longstanding act pretty much plays a repertoire of greatest hits. They might throw in some “new” album stuff that nobody is interested in, people are just there to hear what they love.

  • @itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml
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    83 months ago

    I saw Bob Dylan in concert like 15 years ago. He played all new stuff except for the encore. I know these artists aren’t a jukebox but come on, man.

  • @Ellvix@lemmy.world
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    53 months ago

    I saw an interview from a band talking about this problem. They said it was a tough balancing act. The people there live want to hear the classics and don’t want new stuff. But anyone watching remotely or watching the video later already has their favorite versions of the classics and doesn’t want to hear them again, they want new stuff. You have to do both and it’s hard.

  • Lka1988
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    23 months ago

    Chevelle did this on their most recent tour. The album isn’t quite finished yet and, according to a podcast their frontman appeared on last month, they ended up reworking quite a bit of that song.

    I’m excited for it, but Chevelle is one of my favorite bands, so…

  • @peetabix@sh.itjust.works
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    13 months ago

    Can’t find it right now but I remember listening to a live recording of Stone Temple Pilots playing Plush saying it was a new song.