• @BradleyUffner@lemmy.world
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      234 months ago

      I’ve seen several people try to defend it by saying that the Nazi salute doesn’t start with your hand over your heart… Well this gif really clears things up.

      • @jaschen@lemm.ee
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        224 months ago

        I have a Jewish friend that is defending it saying that his arms were sideways and the Nazi salute is in front. I sent him this and he said… Welp, I guess it’s time to move.

      • @dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world
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        74 months ago

        Also, while I"m no physiotherapist, it looks like musk’s shoulder mobility is hindered a bit. Maybe its the suit/shoulderpads, maybe he’s just really out of shape. Which is to say that he knew that he had to get his hand up over his head to get the gesture right. It’s significantly more effort than you’d do by accident.

        • @TrippaSnippa@lemm.ee
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          54 months ago

          It’s probably just the suit jacket, those things do restrict your arm’s vertical range of movement.

    • @dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world
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      124 months ago

      To the person that made this gif: thank you for your service. You had to pour over far more footage of this nonsense than anybody should ever have to.

    • @brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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      Playing devil’s advocate, it appears Hitler doesn’t usually start with an open palm on his heart, but one perpendicular to his chest.

      But sometimes he just goes straight from arms down to the salute. There’s some variability.

      Anyway, this is splitting hairs to an obscene degree. You have to contort your brain to not see this as a Nazi salute, ignoring the context or not, and in any other time a public figure would have at least apologized for doing this if they weren’t impeached/dismissed/fired.

      • Flying SquidOP
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        24 months ago

        And really, I doubt Elon has studied the “proper” way to seig heil.

  • @Iceman@lemmy.world
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    405 months ago

    What if you do it outside of the Israeli embassy as your heart goes out to the hostages?

  • moosetwin
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    375 months ago

    don’t worry, he did it at work and he was fine!

  • @harmsy@lemmy.world
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    345 months ago

    If it honks like a goose and it steps like a goose, there’s not too many things it could be.

      • @harmsy@lemmy.world
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        34 months ago

        You might be onto something. The capricious assholery of geese is well-known, and he’s also got that bit spot on.

  • @Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee
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    305 months ago

    Well, at least wait until it’s part of the law requiring all businesses to use it as formal greetings.

  • @gmtom@lemmy.world
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    184 months ago

    I wonder if a bunch of pro palestianian protestors started “giving their hearts” to the people of Israel, if suddenly it would have a different meaning.

  • @WatDabney@sopuli.xyz
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    75 months ago

    Musk is a troll.

    Don’t feed the troll.

    Every bit of energy and attention expended on the sieg heil is a bit of energy and attention that’s NOT being expended on any of the actions being taken and policies being enacted by Trump and the oligarchs right this moment for the direct and explicit purpose of destroying liberty and democracy in the US.

    The sieg heil is performative. It’s a symbol. In and of itself, it causes no direct harm.

    However, a terrifying number of the actions that Trump is actually taking - directives he’s issuing and policies he’s implementing -are causing and will cause direct and measurable harm.

    They need to be the focus, and the sieg heil is a distraction from them.

    And that’s not an accident. Musk is a troll.

    • Flying SquidOP
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      1135 months ago

      Musk is running the U.S. government. Dismissing someone that dangerous as just a troll is a mistake.

      • @rockSlayer@lemmy.world
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        145 months ago

        He definitely shouldn’t be dismissed and people are right to be absolutely pissed at the open nazism, but also the sieg heil is an extremely obvious distraction.

      • @WatDabney@sopuli.xyz
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        25 months ago

        There’s a world of difference between “a troll” and “just a troll.” I expect you know that.

        And you’ve evaded my point, so I’ll repeat it, broken down into bite-sized pieces:

        The sieg heil didn’t cause direct and measurable harm in and of itself.

        Meanwhile, there are many things that this administration is actively doing right this moment that are causing and will cause direct and measurable harm.

        Every single bit of energy and attention spent on the sieg heil is energy and attention NOT spent on them.

        That’s not an accident.

    • @el_bhm@lemm.ee
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      The sieg heil is performative. It’s a symbol. In and of itself, it causes no direct harm.

      It enables and empowers nazis. A group that is known to take violent action when they feel they can.

      And yes. It is a performance. To draw attention away from the meme coin. A giant grift on people and a way to bribe the grifters.

      • @bobs_monkey@lemm.ee
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        135 months ago

        It enables and empowers nazis. A group that is known to take violent action when feeling they can.

        And as a bonus, all of those little nazi muffins that were either in jail or otherwise hampered by their earned felony are now free to go bananas, including acquiring arms stockpiles.

        Numerous intelligence reports had found that those far right leaders were somewhat stifled by the J6 implications, and their organizations driven somewhat underground. Orange Caesar just took the lid off.

    • @jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de
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      125 months ago

      It depends how you use the moment. I like Die Zeit’s article about it (in German, paywall can be bypassed with archive websites). They use it as on opportunity to discuss the context where it was made - an extreme right political event - and expose how mainstream media has helped normalizing nazi symbology by amplifying the gaslighting.