Happy new year 2025…

  • @Showroom7561@lemmy.ca
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    1094 months ago

    It was a subtle declaration of war the first time he brought it up. After repeating it a dozen more times, we really shouldn’t be ignoring this as a country.

    The United States under Trump is a foreign threat with hostile intentions.

      • Sixty
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        14 months ago

        I’ve been losing weight all winter so far by fasting. Built a home gym out of used stuff off locals. Next is navigating that whole gun ownership thing I ignored my whole adult life thus far, and signing up for training. My mom’s friend teaches at a Canadian Tire that has a gun range.

        I’m getting prepared for hard times, whatever they bring. Hopefully not the USA invades Canada scenario. We’d get rolled.

        • @CalPal@lemmy.ca
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          24 months ago

          They once said that Ukraine would get absolutely rolled by Russia within 3 days, 2 weeks tops.

          Never underestimate a pissed off underdog, especially when fealty to the US President is nowhere near as “strong” / co-opted as in the Russian Federation.

          • @DicJacobus@lemmy.world
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            24 months ago

            Conventionally Canada wouldn’t last more than a week. Unconventionally, the insurgency and resistance would tear America to peices. for the same reason Russia’s plan for Ukraine was braindead and unfeasible.

            When the cultures and appearance of two peoples who are each others neighbors are virtually indistinguishable, the resistance will tear the occupying apart from within. Ukraine has the benefit of having Europe on its border to flood them with Arms, Canada wouldn’t have that luxury, the Government would surrender quite quickly, and be replaced with a Quisling government, However resistance against the occupation, the Americans wouldn’t know what to do as they’d spend just as much time accidentally hunting their own people, (and lets be real, if something like this happened, America would de-facto already be in a state of civil war as large population centers revolt against a Fascist autocracy that’s attacking its own people and America’s historical allies and friends for no other reason than plain old fascism)

          • CyborganismOP
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            14 months ago

            Sure, but Canada doesn’t have the budget to match the mega trillion dollar army the U.S. has.

            However, I doubt they would find enough recruits willing to go kill Canadians. They’d probably conscientiously object, except for a handful of bozos. Not to mention they’d probably get sanctioned by every fucking country around the world.

        • @DicJacobus@lemmy.world
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          14 months ago

          You dont train to fight in a war against america, you train to fight in an insurgency.

          Americans have no stomach for occupation, they pissed and moaned and ultimately surrendered to the Taliban, and that was on the other side of the world. and the cultures and appearances were so different they might as well have been Aliens.

          They’d cry “terrorism” every day of the week, but the Americans would be torn to shreds by Insurgent activity on both sides of the border if they betrayed us. Much like how the Russians marched into the land of their “brothers” with assault rifles, and then wondered why people speaking their language who looked like them, were suddenly killing them all over Russia.

      • @DicJacobus@lemmy.world
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        14 months ago

        minor ancedote, high treason is a term reserved for people already within the government or positions of authority. *

  • CyborganismOP
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    614 months ago

    Trump can get fucked. I’ll fight tooth and nail before we become a 51st state.

    • @HikingVet@lemmy.ca
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      394 months ago

      Start learning how to resist his nonsense now. With Trudeau’s resignation lil pp has adopted an election stance.

      The fuckery is about to ramp up.

      • Swordgeek
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        214 months ago

        With Trudeau’s resignation lil pp has adopted an election stance.

        Oh, it’s been going on for a while.

        I can’t find it right now, but there was a graph posted a few weeks ago showing how much the CPC outspent the other parties on campaign advertising in 2024. It was astounding.

    • Skeezix
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      -34 months ago

      I think it’s time you accept your orange overlord

  • Swordgeek
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    344 months ago

    That stupid Nazi fuck may discover just how vicious Canadians can get when defending their country.

    • @Auli@lemmy.ca
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      4 months ago

      Canada Mexico Panama Greenland now president Musk is talking about freeing the UK. America is on the war path it seems. I think the world is going to be blind sided by this. Europe should get off of US tech. Everything the US says about China is something they can do also.

    • Canadian_anarchist
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      24 months ago

      Manifest Destiny has been America’s plan since it won the war for independence from Britain.

  • acargitz
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    214 months ago

    If the US is willing to adopt a Westminster parliamentary system, the Canadian charter of Rights, official bilingualism (or, well, trilingualism, because Spanish) and give up silly ideas like the 2nd Amendment and life tenure of SC justices, something could be worked out. What do you mean no?

  • @masterspace@lemmy.ca
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    194 months ago

    I will say that I think a lot of people are about to get a taste for how much worse we can do than Trudeau.

  • Pyr
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    4 months ago

    It might happen if pollievre gets elected. Conservatives are little America worshippers.

    • CyborganismOP
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      234 months ago

      The Bloc Québécois might start getting elected outside Québec to form its own country… with other provinces.

    • @DicJacobus@lemmy.world
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      14 months ago

      actual conservatives aren’t, the problem is moderate conservatism has been taken over to use as a vehicle to normalize ultranationalism and fascism.

  • Yardy Sardley
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    174 months ago

    It’s getting to the point where I don’t think dicking around on internet forums is good enough. Every time trump repeat the phrase “51st state” it gets a little more serious. We need to start organizing irl like, yesterday.

    • CyborganismOP
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      34 months ago

      Yeah. We have to start having discussions with our family and relatives. We can’t keep politics out of conversations anymore. Anyone who plans to vote conservative needs to be convinced otherwise.

  • Greg Clarke
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    154 months ago

    Don’t feed the trolls! He’s only repeating this because it got attention the last time he spewed this bs.

  • @humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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    154 months ago

    US deficits/debt are too high to be sustainable. Low taxes come with high health insurance costs. The threat of Russia/China has always been complete BS, but they are not “surrounding us constantly”

    The best reply to this asshole would be to openly talk of US states joining Canada as a province. Or to have a constitutional convention with 50 states to decide which 2 countries to form.

    We can also offer to trade with China/Russia/others more to lower any trade surpluses we have with US.

    • CyborganismOP
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      114 months ago

      I wouldn’t trade with Russia since they are involved in the invasion of the Ukraine. And China would simply flood our market with their stuff and ruin us.

      • @humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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        -194 months ago

        I wouldn’t trade with Russia since they are involved in the invasion of the Ukraine.

        Believing Russia instigated war is a lie that make Canadians worse than a 51st state. We are a NATO colony. Canadian media discussion of responses to this is that “we need to desperately buy more (3% of gdp) broken F35s to defend the Arctic, and be the front line on war on China” and futher acts of pure sycophancy.

        Canadians trusting our CIA allegiant colonial figurehead politicians and media is core to our subservience. Defense pacts with other nuclear powers is best way to have US focus on US-Canada mutual prosperity instead of their destruction and collapse. 51st state, even with the minimal democratic representation that exists in a corrupt US, while less subservient than our current role, also condemns Canada to a worse collapse than US’s destiny. We need to be a brake on US empire instead of the willing sacrifice to the last Canadian that the CIA wants us to accept.

        • @foggenbooty@lemmy.world
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          24 months ago

          So far I’ve been flagging this guy and others as Tankies so I can quickly ignore them. My reasoning originally was that maybe they’d have something useful to say in other topics so it was better than blocking and not seeing anything at all. At least I would know they’re here and not get out of touch.

          I’m really questioning this stance now though. They never have anything good to say and are so obviously propagandists. What are you guys doing?

          • @humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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            04 months ago

            You need to think for a bit: What does a war on Russia and then China gain for you? If you want to know propaganda, consider what makes you so devoted to that future.

            • @foggenbooty@lemmy.world
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              24 months ago

              I don’t have to play any of your games or answer your new question. We can start and end with your statement that Russia didn’t start the war in Ukraine. This isn’t some long forgotten detail of the past, it’s recent and the whole world watched Russia invade Ukraine. To refute that is delusional and there’s no point in talking further.

              • @humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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                -24 months ago

                the whole world watched Russia invade Ukraine. To refute that is delusional and there’s no point in talking further.

                That is the pure propaganda disinformation that fuels your own delusion.

                in 2014, US led coup put their chosen nazis in power, passed Apartheid laws, and with US funding had nazi battalions start civil war bombings in Donbas, and massacred anti nazi protestors in Odessa. Russia has been trying to solve Ukraine peacefully since 2014. The only condition for war in Ukraine to continue is that Ukraine must be a western puppet meant to diminish/terrorize Russia in perpetuity.

                When you call reality Russian propaganda, you’re simply misinformed and in state of manipulated confusion. Seems clear that being 51st state is distasteful to both simpletons and informed, but for the simpleton, staying a bitch of the US empire must be defended even more, and war on Russia who’s most optimistic possible outcome is nuclear strikes on simpletons, for which the simpletons will still be cheering for,

                Calling reality, opposing the extreme political corruption in subservience to US empire’s demonism, tankie/extreme left, is bodysnatchers level of sycophancy.

                • @foggenbooty@lemmy.world
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                  14 months ago

                  Like I said, complete delusion. I’m not some empty headed, cable news watching, USA can do no wrong simpleton. I can see the propaganda that the US puts out and how they meddle in foreign affairs. I also see the propaganda Russia puts out, and you are guzzling it.

                  There’s no point in continuing this, I won’t reply again to a tankie troll.

          • @eronth@lemmy.world
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            04 months ago

            It’s what actual left wing extremism looks like, as opposed to whatever the US is pretending it is.

          • @humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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            -44 months ago

            If you submit to US empire on its warmongering projects and genoicde, you are doomed to a worse fate than being their 51st state.

  • @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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    This, Greenland… What is Trump’s obsession with trying to get more territory? Is he trying to start a war with someone? Does he think if the country is at war he can postpone the next election?

    Or is he just copying daddy Putin? Insisting Ukraine Canada wants to be part of Russia the US and that makes it okay to go “Liberate” Canada…

    • @i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca
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      214 months ago

      They’re physically large territories so the map looks very impressive, especially with the Mercator projection.

      This is the man who redirected a hurricane with a sharpie. I don’t think there’s any more to it.

    • @bitwise@lemmy.ca
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      94 months ago

      Putin’s his master and handler. If the United States throws the high ground away and starts gobbling up neighbouring nations, it becomes that much easier to say “the West does it too”.

    • @DicJacobus@lemmy.world
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      14 months ago

      It’s quite simple. Resource extraction, and coloring more of the map in his country’s color.

      Russia’s reasons for invading Ukraine mostly boil down to the same, although their country is so fucked, they actually need to forcefully graft 40 million people onto their population against their will, just so Russia can survive another generation, Russia is a doomed country demographically, America isn’t, America is doing it just because. That’s Ultranationalism and Fascism for you. Making enemies to distract yourself from internal strife

  • Rose56
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    134 months ago

    I like how he says “Many people in Canada LOVE being the 51st state”, where did he get that? any polls he did recently?

    Let him talk as much he want, nothing he can do IMO.

    • @Badland9085@lemm.ee
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      114 months ago

      Those are meaningless questions to ask someone like Trump. It doesn’t matter and never will matter where he gets the statement. He just needs to never admit that he pulled that out of his ass, and accuse every fact checker of political bias or lying. Those are the rules in his playbook.

      • @DicJacobus@lemmy.world
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        34 months ago

        Thousands of idiots who would sell out their family for a red hat. all because they’re mad about bathroom signs.

        if push came to shove, those people would be taken care of pretty violently.

    • Victor Villas
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      244 months ago

      Because he is taking the helm of the most dangerous country of the West

        • Victor Villas
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          44 months ago

          If I was a CBC editor, I would tone it down, yes. If that’s what you meant, then I agree that we don’t have to platform every little media bait he tweets. But here’s Lemmy, there’s no editorial.

      • @DicJacobus@lemmy.world
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        14 months ago

        the world in 2025 is multitudes more dangerous and volatile than the world the last time he was here. thats the issue.

        We’ve seen an outbreak of inter-state war unlike anything since the 40s and 50s. With Russia and Ukraine And the rest of Europe, its the biggest state vs state conflict since Iran-Iraq in the 80s. and there are conflicts flaring up all over the world. Israel is going on a spree of settling every grudge they ever had, Syria as fallen, China is making final preparations for Taiwan, Azerbaijan looks like its going to invade Armenia, War is the hot topic of the 2020s.

        Trump is an isolationist, if the world is going down in flames, he thinks it’s not unreasonable to suggest consolidating control over North America, just cuz.

    • CyborganismOP
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      154 months ago

      Because, believe it or not, we can’t just toss these statements like they don’t matter. The leader of a world superpower, both military and economically, is threatening our sovereignty.

  • @Arkouda@lemmy.ca
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    74 months ago

    I hope you realize that by posting this ignoramus’ nonsense you are actively a part of the problem.

    If you don’t, this is me telling you to stop being an active part of the problem by posting this ignoramus’ nonsense.

  • @DrPop@lemmy.world
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    54 months ago

    I’m 2020 52% of Puerto Ricans who voted said yes to joining the United States as a full fledged state. What about them, they actually want to be a part of this shithole country.

    • CyborganismOP
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      64 months ago

      They already are, technically. They just don’t have a voice on who their leader can be.