Quite a good list, although without any real surprises, except for the cheeky inclusion of a recent fan-made PC port. I’m glad Kerbal Space Program is on it, but a few other personal favorites (and candidates for best game of all time) are absent, like The Talos Principle, BeamNG.drive, NEO Scavenger, World of Goo, Mafia, Machinarium and Gothic II. Jets’n’Guns - a very early Indie masterpiece of a 2D space shooter - as well, but it’s a bit too obscure for these kinds of lists. I’ll stop here before I accidentally create my own top 100.

Are your favorite PC games well-represented by this list?

  • @thingsiplay@beehaw.org
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    No Overwatch in the entire list? Final Fantasy 14 the only FF in the list? No Dota 2 or Leage of Legends? No Batman game?

    I know its just opinions and fun, but I’m just very surprised, not angry or anything like that.

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      The Overwatch 2 update was pretty widely hated, so that might be clouding things. I supposed they did put Destiny 2 on there though. It is for sure weird to not see FFVII or an Arkham game. Or hell, Dishonored.

      Edit: Whoops missed Dishonored 2.

    • @Ludz@lemmy.ml
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      True, OK everyone has its own preferences but indeed ff7 missing looks surprising, didn’t see lot of city builders (not mentioning wolfenstein, fable, populous, Dk…)

    • @zod000@lemmy.ml
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      Regarding the FF games, I think it’s actually fine considering some of the more notable omissions. Most FF games didn’t get released anywhere near when they were relevant.

      • @thingsiplay@beehaw.org
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        Sure, but how do you explain then Persona 5 Royal then on place 5 then? Final Fantasy 7 Remake got higher ratings, I think sold more and was surely more popular on PC, right? Red Dead Redemption 2 was also released on PC when it anywhere near its initial relevance. Metal Gear Solid 3 or Mass Effect Legendary Edition is even worse, because those games are much much older.

        Also Portal behind Slay the Spire? Team Fortress 2 34 places behind Hunt: Showdown 1896? So strange! These Valve games were revolutionary and defined their genre with huge number of players and fanbase.

        My point is just, that the given argumentation here doesn’t hold up to me. But that is what you get if you ask people for their opinion. It’s just that and it will always surprise you.

        • @zod000@lemmy.ml
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          The list is honestly bizarre and the rank placements are all over the place. Most of your later examples of that I completely agree with. I just think that the mainline FF games not being on the top 100 list of PC games is fairly understandable, and I say that as a huge fan of the series. Ironically, FF14 is quite literally the only game in the series that I haven’t played.

  • Julian
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    87 months ago

    If the entire list isn’t outer wilds its bs.

  • @Crotaro@beehaw.org
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    I fully understand someone thinking x game deserves to be there instead of y but I think this is a great list that spans most genres and serves as a wonderful stepping stone for exploration within gaming.

    If I give this list to someone who doesn’t know yet, what kind of games they like, this list will show them great games from all major “eras” and all kinds of dev studio sizes/budgets. And once they have played, say, KotoR 2 (since it’s in the same list that recommends new and good games like Baldur’s Gate 3, they are more likely to check out other old but great games like Gothic 1 and 2 (and, of course, KotoR 1).

    • Sʏʟᴇɴᴄᴇ
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      The thing for me wasn’t so much the game choice but the placement. It feels like they took a big bag of 100 of the best games and randomly picked them out one at a time. If you start to ask is Y really better than X on this list then it starts to make less and less sense.

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        That’s a fair gripe with the list. I guess “Top 100 Games” is just more catchy than “100 Great Games In Random Order”

        … Although at this point I’ve seen so many “Top x y” lists that “x Great y In Random Order” would, ironically, catch my attention more.

  • Vodulas [they/them]
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    KOTOR 2 on the list instead of KOTOR is an odd choice, but I do not hate it. With the missing content mod, that game is great

    • TommySalami
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      I prefer 2 to 1, primarily because the choices are not as blatantly good/evil and it feels like they have more impact. I also think the character creation and items are more fleshed out. Just a shame it didn’t get the polish it deserved at launch. 1 definitely feels more “Star Wars”-y, though.

  • @SmoochyPit@lemmy.ca
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    This list was really hard for my phone to view. It’s an older phone, so that’s probably why, but it kept freezing and reloading.

  • @Mac@mander.xyz
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    I don’t usually give much thought to these lists but Minecraft deserves it’s place, undoubtedly.

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    Interesting seeing Hotline Miami make the list since I just watched a short video essay the other day explaining how OTXO is just a better game in basically every way.

    I’m still in the 80s working my way down the list, but I searched and OTXO doesn’t appear to be on the page.

    Edit: Conversely, I’m pleased to see Portal included instead of Portal 2. The Portal 2 goo was unnecessary and led to more boring puzzle solutions. Portal is a more pure, timeless game. And it has a lot of amazing mods… I should probably look into how to install Portal mods on the Deck…

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      27 months ago

      OTXO just might have been better than Hotline Miami if it was actually released in 2012. My personal gripe with it is how using a mouse at 60fps in [current year] just feels awful.