I always liked the quote, “If you see someone stealing food, no you didn’t.”
My community hasn’t had a good couple of years. It’s sad to say but it’s better just to assume it’s tough times for everyone… So I didn’t see a thing… especially when they cut another 20+ jobs and tell me to do the job they cut…
The lack of a person watching you check out does not mean no one is watching. They absolutely are and you are being recorded the entire time you are in the store.
Also, these stores have tools that can tally up losses associated to you, and they’ll pull in the cops when the evidence is enough to warrant serious penalty.
Target is notorious for this. Loss Prevention has literal evidence binders for repeat offenders. They’ll tally up everything you’ve stolen, and then sit on it and continue tallying until you have stolen enough to be charged with a felony. Once they have a dollar over their local felony amount, they’ll send their LP team in to pull you aside and you get arrested for felony grand theft.
Imo I think observing a crime like that but not reporting it (so more crimes can be amassed by that person) should be considered legal endorsement of the activity. You were aware of the infraction and chose not to report it or otherwise act on. That you were hoping to “bank” more crime from the criminal seems irrelevant to me - you chose not to pursue legal action even after clearly being aware of the infraction, which tells me you chose inaction.
But of course bringing our laws in line with morality and reason would require an enormous overhaul of the system, so instead we have this bullshit.
Also apparently their surveillance is so top notch that they help train police departments and stuff on the tech.
Remember that even if you cover your face, they’re probably monitoring for your gait. Put a small rock in your shoe to change that…
And a vibrating sex toy in your butt so that you walk strange at random intervals.
I was very uncomfortable with the level of digital surveillance at Fred Meyer yesterday, and I’m a paying customer. I generally don’t show at those types of stores, so it was surprising, and disgusting.
Hey hey hey, no snitching on people who take food. Corporations won’t starve, just because a starving person took some food from them.
No snitching period. Why would you side with a massive corporation that steals from mentally disabled people and old people, decimated America as we knew it, destroying every local economy, and demanding prices so cheap from brands that they’ve made shittier products with slightly different labels to meet that demand? Fuck Walmart. If you rat someone out for stealing from Walmart, then you’re a brainwashed asshole.
They know that loss increases with self checkout. They just did the math and figured it’s less than the cost of hiring all the extra cashiers.
Walmarts around me have cameras at each self check out.
Yup. I was using self checkout once and it flagged me when I was trying to pay but didn’t say why. The supervisor was on top of it and unlocked the terminal and it made him watch a 5 second video of “suspicious activity”, which was me moving my reusable bag to the other side at a low angle. Some AI they use saw that as trying to sneak an unscanned product past the scanner.
I thought it was terribly clever but he just rolled his eyes and apologized for the inconvenience. As if an underpaid Walmart employee is going to waste their time arguing with a shoplifter.
which was me moving my reusable bag to the other side at a low angle.
Seems like a system like that would be easily fooled by confidently moving an item across the scanner and into the baggage area without scanning it.
It’s tied to the scanner so it knows nothing scanned, if you can stack two items and scan only one you can trick it, but the scale will pick up to much added weight so you gotta do something light. Clothes are good.
If they’re anything like the scanners at giant, looking at the scale wrong throws it off.
PLACE ITEM IN BAGGING AREA. UNSCANNED ITEM IN BAGGING AREA. Fuck off.
My local store flagged me cause I had my coffee cup in the cart. It said, “you only scanned 5 items” and it thought I had 6 in the cart. I was a bit surprised cause I didn’t know it was that far of a view.
I did this by accident and the AI was all over it.
It’s a pretty good deterrent for regular folks who might be tempted to try. Criminals gonna crime tho.
If you’re ever feeling too confident in your appearance, go through the Target self check and watch yourself on the screen. I’m a pretty normal looking person, but goddamn… not at the Target self check. Maybe people steal less when they feel bad about themselves…?
My local walmart recently significantly expanded the self checkout area with the new scanners. Currently they either don’t have functioning cameras or they display a gray camera icon where it normally would show a live view.
Not that it matters here specifically, fuck Walmart. But don’t assume that just because a feed on a public screen is blank, that it isn’t being recorded or actively viewed elsewhere.
Also don’t assume that just because a public screen was showing that a video is being recorded. Those little screens in the isles that light up when you walk by don’t record, the over heads do though.
Just had a conversation with my buddy who does security and hes adamant the only reason prices are going up is because of theft. I asked what came first the jump in thefts or the price gouging to which his tuned swapped to “They gotta pay to get these locked shelves and they keep reducing security head count” which of course I had to explain that the one time purchase of the cabinet is immensely cheaper than head count so based off that the prices should actually be dropping by installing them.
Just remember, keep it under 500$ (may vary depending on where you live)
That’s total, not per trip. They can still add up all of your trips if they have the evidence.
