You wouldn’t pirate a medicine, would you?

  • @becausechemistry@lemm.ee
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    238 months ago

    I’m a process chemist. I do this sort of thing for a living.

    These guys don’t even know why what they’re suggesting is so dangerous. Do not do any of this.

    • Random Dent
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      78 months ago

      Yeah that was my first thought too. While I kind of get the spirit of it, in practice this is so absurdly dangerous IMO. Even if someone has the best possible intentions, there are so many things that could go wrong with this, especially if you include things like long-term effects that aren’t immediately apparent, or interactions with other drugs, especially if you’re taking other home-made pills with potentially unknown ingredients. While it can be frustrating to hear about a promising new medicine that won’t be available for years, there’s a reason why they spend so long testing these things.

      IMO the better (but much more difficult) solution is reforming the medical industry so that it’s easier for people to see a doctor and actually afford to get medicine. I’m not usually a fan of big government stuff, but medicine is one of those things that just needs to be kept under supervision I think.

      • @Sethayy@sh.itjust.works
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        138 months ago

        As someone with a chemistry background I’m surprised you think the industry even takes half these precautions for our current drugs.

        Not even talking about ‘state of the art’ meds here were talking the plastics from cars that’ve been around since the 60’s is under studied (but hey its sponsored by oil money so its ‘safer’)

        • @Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de
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          108 months ago

          The global medical community had to beg the US to ban lead from consumer products like paint and gasoline for close to 80 years and our politicians kept taking bribes from lobbyists to ignore medical science… But did we learn from that and ban lobbying? Nope, lobbyists are now bribing politicians to ignore the plastic epidemic and global warming

    • @kirk781@discuss.tchncs.deOP
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      38 months ago

      I think these guys might be able to hack through the process and get stuff done and think getting other people to follow them will be trivial as well. But just because they didn’t mess up, doesn’t mean other people won’t. A large majority might end up hurting themselves if they follow in their route.

      • @becausechemistry@lemm.ee
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        28 months ago

        That’s the thing. They have no way of even knowing if they messed up! I’m not even sure the way they could be messing up is a thing they know they should be worried about.

    • @M500@lemmy.ml
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      88 months ago

      I would not trust that the pills he was throwing out to the crowd were legit. But if an independent third party could verify the drug, why not.

      Also, I am not suffering from anything that is too expensive to fix. Maybe if I was desperate and not rich, I’d have a different opinion.

  • KillingTimeItself
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    78 months ago

    now we just need nile red to synthesize insulin. We’ll be set once that happens.

  • @PolarisFx@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    68 months ago

    I have a friend in Portugal who uses semaglutide that’s compounded by a local pharmacy for about 35euros a month. I, in Canada still pay $230/month for Ozempic. For $120/month I could take a 2.5mg dose similar to Wegovy which in Canada right now is $400ish

    Its the same drug, just no prefilled pen. All these pharmacies that offer it in Europe aren’t accessible from North America without a vpn, and then once accessible refuse to ship to Canada.

    • y0kai
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      68 months ago

      Good, don’t lol

      Lots of people do know a lot about these things and were previously hindered by an inability to manufacture the drugs themselves.

      There are plenty of docs and chemists who would willingly do this underground because they actually want to help people.

  • @adelita2938@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    -28 months ago

    You wouldn’t pirate a medicine, would you?

    You wouldnt’ pirate a human thought would you? The basis of this entire sub, that one pile of neurons deserves for life the rights to a computation.

    • @kirk781@discuss.tchncs.deOP
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      78 months ago

      I just wrote it because it rhymed with the now memed 2004 anti piracy announcement You wouldn’t download a car that was rightfully criticized.