About 500,000 trees cut down at site of Tesla gigafactory near Berlin
www.theguardian.com
Satellite image analysis shows 329 hectares of forest cleared during development of factory in Germany
    • @Plopp@lemmy.worldEnglish
      -3•10 months ago

      With that logic we could cut down pretty much every single forest in Sweden and tell people to stop crying about it.

      Edit: Why the down votes? We pretty much have no natural forests left in Sweden. It’s basically all mono cultures planted with the intent to be cut down and sold. But if that’s the only forests you have they’re still very valuable (as forests I mean).

      • holgerssonEnglish
        8•10 months ago

        Why the downvotes

        I for my part downvoted because it’s just false equivalence. Cutting down a part of a commercial forest is pretty far from completely cutting “every single forest” in Sweden.

        Is it great that trees were cut down without replanting? No.

        Is there a perfectly cleared and infrastructurally connected plot of land in Brandenburg that Tesla could have used instead? Also no.

        Your comparison was basically the same as “We sell a plot of land to Elon? Why not just sell every plot of land to him then!”.

        • @technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          4•10 months ago

          The point is not that sweden is selling every inch of land to elon.

          The point is that every forest in sweden is “commercial forest” so that’s a meaningless justification.

        • @Plopp@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2•10 months ago

          Ah I see the problem then. I wasn’t trying to equate anything. I was simply addressing the reasoning behind the statement (that non-natural forests don’t matter), taking it to the extreme to make point. I don’t know anything about the forest in question, and I wasn’t talking about it.

  • @Kyrgizion@lemmy.worldEnglish
    14•10 months ago

    Wanna bet that gigafactory somehow gets closed down or cancelled before opening? Tesla might not even survive that long.

    • @UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1•10 months ago

      Currently yeah, but why can’t we see electric cars as the step towards getting rid of oil? More electric cars will make more and more people want cleaner energy. Where eventually the fuel to run the cars comes from fully renewable sources.

  • @tabular@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3•10 months ago

    When talking trade-offs you can’t just compare a combustion engine to an electric engine, you gotta consider electric public transport too. This has the bonus of pissing on Musk.

  • @Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1•10 months ago

    Germany wanted this. They courted and kissed Elon’s ass for this. For all their pr, I’ve learned that Germans aren’t as progressive and smart as they would like the rest of us to think