Linux will never be a home operating system for most people. It will not even come close to windows or Mac. It is not user friendly, it is not supported by the VAST majority of home use software and it has too many distros. No one wants to get with an OS when the first question is which version. The learning curve is too steep and when stuff goes wrong it is way harder to find and solve.
It’s nice that yall like it but the amount of forceful shoving of Linux on lemmy is hysterical knowing how no one listens.
Damn.
31 flavors and you choose to be salty…
Hey. Blame OP. They asked. I wouldn’t have said shit otherwise
I know, Tom.
The discussions on Lemmy were exactly what made me try out Linux, and now I’m an avid Linux’er. +1 for Linux.
There’s no harm in telling people about Linux though. The majority of people who can figure out the fediverse probably have the requisite technical skills to figure out Linux. Yeah I agree it’ll never be a home OS for most people, but also many homes don’t even have a PC at all anymore.
The problem is when people get militant and / or hostile about it
This, today PC means laptop, that’s what almost everyone who has a PC uses, most people do with just a tablet though. 95% of the garbage people use the internet for can be done on a mid range smart phone. The people who need high powered desktop devices or use them for entertainment are already a minority in the market for computing devices. The largest chunk of OS marketshare is decided by business purchases, not individual PC owners.
So what you’re saying is, most people already run Linux (or BSD) on their main computing device.
The most sold computing device on the planet are Android smartphones. Android is a flavor of Linux.
That’s what I was trying to say.
There is a large difference between telling someone and then getting mass downvoting anyone who dares oppose Linux while throwing a hissyfit and claiming that Linux is the greatest thing since oxygen. Lemmy is on the latter, not the former.
My recent unpopular opinion post on this topic was controversial
My post (on my other lemmy account before I switched this one to my main) sharing a video by a youtuber that said some open source software was badly designed in terms of UI and how it could be improved received so much hostility that I got fed up and ended up deleting it
It wasn’t even a negative video, my post wasn’t even negative
What was the point of sharing it if people just react hostile towards it even though you shared it in good faith
The bad design with some open source software is why I don’t use some of them and why I haven’t installed Linux as a dual boot operating system yet
I use blender and krita because they have good designs with the gui and its catered towards the user using the software in this case creatives
Gimp however and other badly designed open source software don’t cater GUI towards the user demographics that would be using them
Agreed, I don’t get the argument for using Linux beyond vague “windows bad” hand waving. Frankly, having to use computers probably every hour of my waking life for work and entertainment, I find nothing wrong with windows, or Mac OS. Or iOS or iPad OS beyond just the idiosyncratic annoyances each OS brings to the table. Is there any tangible reason Linux is superior to all the other OSs out there beyond it being open source? Also how is being open spurce objectively a benefit?
Privacy/no data mining is (frankly) a huge deal and a major problem in modern society is that this is not valued at all. To me, this is really analogous to the climate crisis in the sense that we’ve known about the impending climate crisis for decades and no one valued it till we got to the point of no return/crisis point. I really cannot emphasise enough what a big deal it is to value your data/information/privacy.
Other than that, Linux really is a functional OS and there will be other benefits like multiple desktop styles to choose from, the possibility to do more advanced things if you need to (if learn how), the OS is virus-free, better performance (because the computer doesn’t need to work so hard on your OS and can spend that energy on other things), giving life to old hardware that Windows no longer supports (and saving your money as well as the planet from thr e-waste), the importance of an alternative choice so the market is not monopolised by predator corporate giants. There will be loads more benefits, but those are a few to begin with.
It also has downsides (as mentioned above).
Doesn’t it use less system resources?
When Windows 10 isn’t supported anymore, better to use Linux than have an unsecure computer or buy a new computer.
For me windows uses 3-5gb of ram on idle just after starting up. This is pretty consistent across multiple computers for me. On the same computers (I dual-boot on both my laptop and desktop) Linux idles at about 800mb-1.2gb. This was even true on KDE which was one of the “heavier” feature-rich desktop environments. I think Gnome might have been 1.5gb ish but I haven’t used in a while. Either way, it used way less RAM than my windows installs which could noticeably impact some resource intensive programs like blender or davinci resolve
As someone with decision paralysis and executive dysfunction issues, this is true for me. I’m probably more than capable of using it for a daily driver but there are 5000 flavors and I will likely never be able to make a solid choice until one is obviously vastly superior in some way I need.
Just use Ubuntu. It just works.
That’s what I use if I want to just get things done.
Lemmy taught me I’ll go to Linux Hell for using Ubuntu.
Nah. There’s a lot of nerds on here. They are over overrepresented. Normal folks and older users who don’t have time to fuck around use Ubuntu.
Why recommend Gnome as a windows alternative? Surely KDE is a much better option if you’re trying to make a windows user feel more familiar with the interface.
I’m a KDE user right now. While I love KDE, I find that it breaks way too easily when you customize it. And there’s way,way too many customization options to a point that it becomes overwhelming. I can waste hours trying to customize something, roll back, break KDE, reset my KDE environment, try again, etc. And between KDE users, the desktop will almost never be the same which can lead to issues when they ask for support from a friend or something.
In gnome, what you see is what you get. You can just focus on your work or your activity. And because there’s less customisation options, you get pretty much the same desktop experience across multiple users. So if I go to a friend’s place and they also it Ubuntu with Gnome, I’m almost certain to have the same desktop experience as mine
My Ubuntu on a SBC for a workshop just killed itself on Monday. Had it for a few months, new SBC, fresh Ubuntu install, 0 customization, just using it occasionally for Chromium. It popped up a new version -Minotaur or something- was out, so I said sure upgrade. It gave an error for bash near the end, then bricked itself. Now i gotta dig out SD cards and find a new distro.
Fuck Ubuntu. Ends in misery every single time.
And no I don’t want any recommendations.
Well that’s like a single anecdotal experience out of hundreds of thousands who had no problem. And it’s more probable to run into problems when using non-LTS versions.
To lump my own personal bitch onto this: liking a thing and bringing it up regardless of conversation or context isn’t a personality
not supported by the VAST majority of home use software
Just want to say most people only need a browser, and it’s only going to continue on that path. That’s why ChromeOS works.
You are wrong. The reason that linux isn’t popularvis that windows comes preinstalled in computers and most people don’t know how to install an operating system pet along what an operating system is. Linux is dead easy nowadays, ao.much that my tech illiterate parents can use it, spread misinformation elsewhere
I’ve seen more criticism of Lemmy’s Linux Problem, than I actually have seen LLP in action
TIL I haven’t had a home operating system for a quarter century.
TIL you can’t read. I said most people. Not everyone.
If you’ve ever said “cowabunga dude” unironically, it’s high time to schedule that prostate check.
Gutenberg was a grifter. He stole money from people, sometime his own family, and ran up debts that he couldn’t pay.
The only reason that he started printing bibles and became religious was because he was going to be thrown in prison for swindling people out of money, and it’s a bad look to throw someone in prison who prints the word of God. In fact, most of what we know about Gutenberg comes from his court documents.
Also movable type and the printing press were already known in Europe and had already been invented in East Asia several hundred years earlier than Gutenberg. (the first printed texts date back to 700 CE and movable type prints around 1000 CE, both in modern China). It was nothing new.
Stop with the echo chamber. Dissenting views aren’t trolls by default.
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I’m learning rust and going to contribute one day.
I know the world is rough but they to have a good day.
Learn what nuance is.
I agree 100%!
Well… maybe 70%.
Love it! Well… maybe just- like it a lot.
Math is truth.
Meth isn’t.
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Fuck you for some reason. That is all.
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No thanks
Nuclear power plants won’t help solve the climate crisis.
They take too long to build.
While the risk of a catastrophic failure is very low, its effects are so bad they can’t be included in any sensible risk assessment.
They prolong the dependence on energy companies that are too big to fail and can therefore blackmail the government.
They depend on enormous amounts of water for cooling, at a time when rivers frequently get too warm for that due to climate change.
They run on a non-renewable fuel source that is imported from politically instable countries.
And when you include the cost of building them, insuring them, dismantling them and dealing with their waste, they’re simply not economical.
The only way to run them is with massive subsidies and unconditional securities from the state. I.e. tax money being funnelled to big corporations.nuclear power plants are way too vulnerable and dangerous of a terrorist target.
Honestly if the UK can spend a couple of decades with half a hiroshimas worth of high explosives sitting unguarded within sight of London I think a nuclear facility with actual security will be fine.
This highlights issues with using capitalism and some human mindsets
If tripping has turned ugly for you, but you love the potential of psychedelics, then you should seriously consider doing some kind of shamanic ceremony, instead of your next random death-metal-concert-on-shrooms-in-a-strange-city or whatever your usual pattern is.
Set and setting really matter a lot, and ceremony has culturally evolved as a very healthy and productive setting.
we’re all in this together
Erh… yes… ehm… fine weather today, right?
I awkardly gaze to the ground while I wait for the elevator to arrive at the right floor.
That link led me to a thread on /generaldiscussion where a user posted about how they want their teacher to dominate them sexually.
We really need to figure out a canonical way of linking to content in the fediverse.
I think that was the intent. OP is also the OP of that thread lmao. Maybe he also just wants us to know?
Oh shit. I assumed it wasn’t working properly since I’ve seen too many examples of linking not working
