I grew up a Jehovah’s Witness and disabled. I constantly heard how once the “new system” came by disability would be healed. My grandmother would constantly talk about how terrible everything is from all the “worldly people”. My parents divorced when I was a teenager. They quickly shunned my mother and us. Then again after our grandmothers death (who went to the church… religiously), we heard nothing from them. They don’t care about anyone but themselves.
Anyway, once I started Earth Science in high school and learned how old everything really is, how large space is and how truly small and insignificant we are to the universe. It put it all into perspective and now I’m pretty much an Atheist. I know I don’t truly know what is out there, or who created us. But I know it wasn’t some dude that did it just to set us up to fail. So why should I have any belief in that?
Sorry about that. Did you see the latest kurzgesagt video about us possibly living in a black hole?
I have now! Thanks for the recommendation. That’s pretty crazy to think about.
Also if you haven’t yet, be sure to check out quantum mechanics. Personally I enjoy the Everett interpretation.
Funny thing, I’ve been saying for decades that “space expansion” would be effectively undistinguishable from “particle contraction”, so falling into a black hole and getting crushed/compressed by it, would look like… the universe we see, with the singularity being somewhere around the Planck’s length, several orders of magnitude down from where we are (assuming Plank’s length would remain constant).
I am not religious, but I often wonder if my life would be easier if I was. I feel like it offers people a lot of things. It helps with networking, and it can help mentally and emotionally cope with life’s struggles. It can give a person a community.
I can see a lot of pros to believing in something. Of course, there can be lots of cons as well. But yeah, it’s something I ponder from time to time.
Do you have any religious feelings?
That’s an interesting question. Hmm. I guess from an outside perspective looking in, it seems like religion can bring people peace. Looking up at the stars by either the naked eye or through a telescope does give me a very small feeling.
Like we’re so insignificant yet extremely unique in our known world. It makes me question how everything could have come to be. Like how could everything just exist. Sometimes, that train of thought gives me exetential dread, but other times, it can give me a peaceful feeling.
Prior to my earliest memories of existence, I knew literally nothing. There wasn’t anything. So it makes it hard to comprehend how things could have come to be from the very beginning. They were created somehow, whether that was through a greater being or other omnipresent thing. The idea of all these elements and things combining to create everything we know really blows my mind.
Going back to the peace thing, I’ve read that some religious people find a lot of inner peace through their faith. I can’t say that I’ve experienced that exactly. But I have experienced moments of extreme peace that are very hard to describe. Almost to levels similar to how people describe they feel prior to almost dying. Just absolute pure peace and bliss.
I’ve only experienced that maybe once or twice in my life. One time was somewhat recent. Maybe a year or so ago, while I was sleeping. It was very profound, and it made me wonder what other feelings or inner thoughts/emotions could be within me that I have yet to experience or feel.
It’s made me wonder about trying some kind of psychedelic at some point in my life. I’m not in a rush, but if given the opportunity to try it in a safe environment, I might. I’m extremely curious if that could help me get past some mental blocks with issues like anxiety, depression and some fears I have
I’m an atheist, but only mention it when asked. I don’t know what much to tell you about it - as far as religions go, it doesn’t get much simpler than “there’s nothing”.
As for why, I’m very fond of the scientific method and it’s the only thing that makes sense to me.I de-converted (and de-baptized myself) from Christianity when I was nineteen.
Once I was outside of my parents’ bubble, it was easier to take a look around and realize that God isn’t real, and the only reason I was ever a Christian is that I was born and programmed to be that way. I now see my life as finite which makes me value my time and mental well-being much more than I did before.
How do you debaptise yourself? Have some time to kill and wanna do a funni
It was a ritual I made up myself. Since you baptize by water, I debaptized by fire.
I just set up a little tailgate grill, made a small fire, burned my Bible and sprinkled a few drops of my blood onto it. It was a fairly quick thing but very cathartic, as it came on the heels of two years of my brain railing against my programming and I had many, many nightmares about demons and spiritual warfare.
Well, do I wanna burn my Bible or get the 10 euros it might fetch? :neocat_googly:
Might try it :3 I mostly work with crystals.
Wait, does beehaw have emojis?
Do what’s best for you. I found burning it to be very empowering.
Oki, thank you
Rocks have feelings too.
(And so does everything else.)
I have none because it’s nonsensical otherwise.
“There’s just us”. It’s frightening. It’s inspiring. Sometimes it’s comforting.
Before starting something new, I ask myself if this is going to bring me a step closer to my eventual goals.
Sensei!
I’m agnostic myself, but I was brought up by Jews, and they have a custom to kiss a scroll in a box on the door every time they enter their house.
That’s interesting, do you know what’s written on the scroll?
Amazing
I was raised loosely Catholic, as in know the stuff but don’t go to mass regularly. I learned about other religions on my own, my doubts rose as I saw what a Catholic school looked like, then had a falling out with “God” when a school friend died in a silly way (football to the head, dead the next day). I kept a spiritual side, learning more about different cults, but after learning about the scientific method, I started recognizing the patterns of manipulation and wishful thinking in all belief systems, leading me to scientific anti-theism, or “Atheism”. I’ve considered left-hand Satanism for a while, but I’m not fond of rituals.
Right now my religion is “None”, with a dash of tolerance for those who don’t understand science but try to, and another dash of fiery wrath for those who attempt to convert me to their beliefs.
I grew up in a secular household, and my parents told me that I could decide for myself what to believe. I ended up an atheist.
Reminds me of Life of Pi, where the protagist was told he could choose anything as a kid.
I’m of a kind of Vajrayana ( Tibetan AwakeSoulism/Buddhism ) which apparently died-out centuries ago.
( I’ve earned Soul/CellOfGod/Continuum memories from previous lives, in meditation: only 1 of those previous incarnations was human, the rest were mostly insects, like a hornet/bee/wasp probably in central Africa who saw a few humans )
it’s abstract.
All material-forms, all rituals, etc, are misleading, fundamentally.
OceanOfAllAwakeSouls/Brahman/G-D/EmitterOfUnconsciousSouls hasn’t any form.
The old testament had something on that: “commandment that no-one ever mistake any form for G-D”.
Carlos Castaneda’s guru “Juan Matus” spoke of the real Universe being abstract.
Basically, it’s Science/Engineering of one’s Continuum’s future-condition.
Want to be crushed under suffering more? Then crush others under suffering, & wait for the action->reaction, of the meanings emitted by one’s continuum eventually are forced back into one’s continuum.
Want to be liberated from reincarnation/Universe’s-recycling & all the perpetual cycle-of-birth-life-sickness-injury-death-bardo…birth…?
THEN all one has to do, is earn shedding SurfaceMind/ego duality ( which Castaneda’s tradition called “Crossing Over” & Buddhism calls realizing of Zen: same thing: ego-annihilation ), so only the 2 more-fundamental minds still are in-play,
then earn the dissolution of one’s LifeMind, which is our unconscious & our dreaming-mind, but it can be made fully conscious & capable…
Earning the dissolution of that leaves only the Soul/Continuum/3rdAttention ( as Castaneda’s tradition called it ).
Once that’s done, then one only has to purify it enough so that not-only is it free from Universe’s containment/perpetual-recycling, but it eventually gets from inside Universe to outside ( which is Enlightenment: dissolution into OceanOfAllAwakeSouls/GreatSpirit/Brahman/G-D/etc )
There are 3 kinds of mind which obliterator-force can’t understand, from our perspective:
- Wisdom-seeing-through-phenomena’s-lack-of-inherent-nature
- Faithing ( surrendering-to, relying-on, & being gratitude-for, LivingSpirit, one’s BuddhaNature, or other LivingInfinity/SoulGuru )
- Bodhichitta ( immeasurable compassion for all sentiences, incapable of insecurity. It’s what Yehoshua “Jesus” benJoseph meant when he said “be born in spirit”, as NOTHING else comes close to that sentience. I experienced it only for 1-1.5seconds, some years ago )
Anyways, it’s all self-evolution, eradication-of-the-ego/self, sublimation-from-ignorant-matter-to-pure-spirit, & that kind of thing…
Just providing this for a bit of perspective: most assumption-rivers/religions don’t hold that there is some mathematical-form/judo required for a someone to get from their current-condition to their desired improved-condition, but that’s essentially how mine works.
Current condition, desired condition, what is the geometry-of-intent which produces the alteration-of-one’s-unconscious-mind that one wants…
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Oh friend, what a ride you’ve been on. I grew up LCMS, and so lemme just say thanks for not doing that to your kids. I noticed what you said about immigrants trying to assimilate in LCMS as well. Particularly when I would visit family in the Midwest, there was a Chinese buffet that we would always visit, and my anti-immigrant (in general) family would proudly say how he went to their church, that the church wrote on his behalf to help get him citizenship, etc. I saw that less in my own community, but LCMS is not the biggest fish in that pond. Baptist is. I’m sorry you had that experience. Bad theology hurts people, and I’m glad you’re making it out on the other side.
I believe in ———
It involves cats and gayness. Its called the inner fediverse
