EDIT: for some context on the problems this creates

The science is clear that fast-growing chickens like the Ross 308 are doomed by their genetics. These have been engineered to grow so incredibly fast, and their bodies just cannot handle it.”

Jackson said secret filming at broiler farms supplying big supermarkets has shown birds struggling to walk or collapsing under their own weight, or dying from heart failure, and dead birds were filmed lying among the flocks.

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Andrew Knight, a professor of animal welfare and ethics at the University of Winchester, said: “With these really rapid growth rates, it can be difficult for the heart and circulatory system to keep up with the expanding body mass. A proportion of these animals suffer from heart failure. It’s also difficult for the bones, ligaments and tendons to keep up with the rapidly increasing body mass, meaning that a proportion of these birds become severely lame [inability to walk properly].”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/16/cheaper-than-chips-frankenchicken-at-the-centre-of-fight-for-animal-welfare

And that quote only lists just some of the health problems they face. There’s a ton of other problems too

  • @_sideffect@lemmy.world
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    This is horrible.

    So not only do we breed them to kill them, we breed them so they suffer for their entire life.

    We need to find other ways to feed people,or try to stop people eating too much (the few vs the poor, of course)

  • @baldingpudenda@lemmy.world
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    I remember going to my aunt’s home where they had a chicken coup. I asked why the chickens where so skinny, thinking the poor chickens weren’t being fed enough. My dad said this is a normal chicken not those super fat chickens made for their meat. So I looked into it and saw how chickens were treated and problems with their sizes. Truly eye opening.

  • @OpticalMoose@discuss.tchncs.de
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    411 year ago

    When I was in Korea, I leaned that chickens can (sort of) fly. They can flap their wings hard enough to get from the ground to a tree branch maybe 8 feet or so off the ground, and safely back down.

    And I’ve heard chickens tasted better back in the old days. A bird that eats grubs, worms, grasshoppers, frogs, snakes, etc tastes different than one that just eats chickenfeed all day.

    • @Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml
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      My chickens can get pretty high. Only one can get a full 8ft off the ground, but they can fly pretty well for being non-flight birds. They can fly pretty far across the ground too, when they want to.

    • gregorum
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      Imagine how delicious that would be

      Mmmm… fried T-Rex drumstick

  • Ephera
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    81 year ago

    Interesting that the crest also grew much quicker on the obese chicken.

    • @usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.mlOP
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      It’s not just feeding them more that’s caused this. To get chickens this large they genetically selected/modified for what was more profitable. I.e they may lead to features being changed unevenly

      This is all at expense of pretty everything else like their health

  • @R1seUp@sh.itjust.works
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    11 year ago

    I’ve been listening to a really good show on this recently. It’s not as clear cut as I once thought. Yes, welfare wise these chickens are worse, but environmentally, they are much better. They eat less, poo less and the poo is contained (living indoors) so it can be burnt to create heat for the sheds in Winter, and then reused as fertiliser. When left to roam free, they poo on the fields, which then runs off and destroys river habitats (see the River Wye).

    Worth a listen for those in the UK:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001stxt?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

  • @amelia@feddit.de
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    My parents used to keep chickens in their garden. They could roam in the garden freely during the day, the coop was only closed at night to keep predators out. One day a chicken decided it would like to check out the roof of the house across the street. Now my parents’ house is at a hillside so the neighbor’s house was quite a bit lower but the chicken still had fly at least 3m up and probably almost 10m across the street. It sat there for quite a while and we were a bit worried it wouldn’t dare to fly back down but eventually it did. Chickens are funny.

      • @bbigras@sh.itjust.works
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        -11 year ago

        What is the downside for the chicken?

        For customers i wouldn’t be surprised that the meat is less flavorful and less enjoyable (like less tender).

        • @usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.mlOP
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          Quite a lot,

          The science is clear that fast-growing chickens like the Ross 308 are doomed by their genetics. These have been engineered to grow so incredibly fast, and their bodies just cannot handle it.”

          Jackson said secret filming at broiler farms supplying big supermarkets has shown birds struggling to walk or collapsing under their own weight, or dying from heart failure, and dead birds were filmed lying among the flocks.

          […]

          Andrew Knight, a professor of animal welfare and ethics at the University of Winchester, said: “With these really rapid growth rates, it can be difficult for the heart and circulatory system to keep up with the expanding body mass. A proportion of these animals suffer from heart failure. It’s also difficult for the bones, ligaments and tendons to keep up with the rapidly increasing body mass, meaning that a proportion of these birds become severely lame [inability to walk properly].”

          https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/16/cheaper-than-chips-frankenchicken-at-the-centre-of-fight-for-animal-welfare

          They are more likely to have all kinds of other health issues not listed in the quote above such as hock burns

          • @bbigras@sh.itjust.works
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            21 year ago

            Gotcha. Thanks!

            I hope the situation will improve with more regulations or pressure. Or maybe if we try to only buy better breeds.

            • @usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.mlOP
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              A good place to start is by changing consumption levels as not doing doing so would make things much harder. It’d be difficult to maintain current consumption levels with slow-growing birds as it’d require a much larger number of chickens to be slaughtered

              Maintaining this level of consumption entirely with a slower-growing breed would require a 44.6%–86.8% larger population of chickens and a 19.2%–27.2% higher annual slaughter rate, relative to the current demographics of primarily ‘Ross 308’ chickens that are slaughtered at a rate of 9.25 billion per year.

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              In sum, without a drastic reduction in consumption, switching to alternative breeds will lead to a substantial increase in the number of individuals killed each year, an untenable increase in land use, and a possible decrease in aggregate chicken welfare at the country-level scale

              https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rsos.210478#d1e265

              • @bbigras@sh.itjust.works
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                11 year ago

                It might also be easier for people like me to try to eat less meat than going full vegan. 1 meat-less meal per week to start doesn’t sound too bad.

    • @usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.mlOP
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      Some have used the term “Frankenchicken” to refer to them because of their numerous health and pain problems from their fast growth