I read about WhatsApp and how people can’t part with Meta because of it, however no one on my continent uses it. Why is it so popular in the EU and other parts of the world?
SMS used to be the standard way of messaging people on a cellphone. Since a European country is about the size of one US state, it’s pretty common to have friends, family or other people you have to message in another European country. Many carriers still charge additional fees for sending SMS messages to other EU countries. So Europeans needed some way of messaging people in other countries for free. That’s where WhatsApp came in, it’s designed for phones and simpler to use than Email. In 2013, WhatsApp was bought by Facebook, which later became Meta. It’s basically the same for other countries that rely on WhatsApp, they need to send messages to foreign countries frequently, which can become quite expensive when using SMS. Americans never needed WhatsApp, because they don’t have to message people in foreign countries as often as Europeans, and they often have unlimited SMS included in their cell plans.
Also in the US the plans had free unlimited sms early on and people just stick with it. They know a number will receive a text message they don’t on now if they have Whatsapp.
You can’t send someone a message unless they have WhatsApp.
Maybe this is true for some regions, but in general the reason was money. SMS costs money, Whatsapp intially had a low one time or annual fee that was way below what you used to pay for a few SMS, but you got better service than MMS for that fee. And now it’s free and sustained by network effects.
This is the best answer.
Source: American, but I’ve spent the past 6 years living across Asia and Europe.
Okay your answer annoyed me because I don’t see how the size of european countries really relates, whatsapp was popular because of group text functionality and messages being free I don’t think it had anything to do with international communication, that said whatsapp and viber took off during the recession when emigration was rampant so there could be something there.
Anyway, I went to investigate and the average US state is larger than the average EU country by quite the margin 190,000 sqkm to 126,000 sqkm.
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Because txt was free over here before Europe. And people are lazy to switch.
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That’s a really bad argument.
Texts got free (or cheap enough not to matter) way before having data enabled on your phone 24/7 was not too expensive.I’m in my forties so I was around when cell phones first became a thing and you had to T9 type your messages and was in my late twenties when smartphones became a things. The cost is the right answer. It was much cheaper in the states to txt earlier than other places. So the US stuck with SMS longer as that’s what people were used to and it eventually became free while in other parts of the world it did not but data and WiFi became more affordable, so people jumped to IM.
No they didn’t, I’ve had phone plans with enough data to use WhatsApp 24/7 (around 2011 probably) way before unlimited texts (don’t know because I haven’t used SMS since forever). In fact I remember way back in 2008 using a website from my phone to send SMS instead of sending them from the phone because it was cheaper. Heck, I think I got unlimited data for WhatsApp before I got unlimited texts, and in fact my current plan has unlimited data but only 100 SMS (or something, I don’t know because I don’t use it).
But the important detail is that I’m not in the US, and this is what you’re missing. In the US for some reason SMS became cheaper, in the rest of the world data became cheaper, which is why still to this day we pay for SMS but get unlimited data whereas in the US it’s the other way around.
And most importantly SMS can’t share all the data WhatsApp and others can. Be it images, videos, locations and similar. Add to that local WIFI which extends life on your data plan and you get more convenience at cheaper prices with extra features. Cell phone network providers really shot themselves in the foot with that one.
I remember the days of the 100 SMS limits and wensites for texting. I had a second SIM card which I could switch to in case I went over the 100 SMS. Then I moved to the US and it was free SMS! WhatsApp was also $1 back then so people who just use the in-built messaging app if they didn’t have anyone residing outside the US. US is still ridiculously expensive for phone and data plans.
That’s maybe like that in the US, but not in Germany. To this day we have like 50 % contracts that have unlimited calls, 10ish GB of data and a fixed price of ~9 ct per text.
In Canada, text is free and data is still expensive. I believe the most expensive in the entire world! Yay!
Others have replied with the reasons, i.e. data vs SMS price. I would just like to comment on:
however no one on my continent uses it. Why is it so popular in the EU and other parts of the world?
No one in your country uses it, people definitely use it on your continent. Latin America is almost 100% WhatsApp, SMS are seen as obsolete there, even if you meant North America Mexico uses WhatsApp. I think the only countries in the world that use SMS are the US and Canada, which coincidentally are the only countries I’ve visited where I had to worry about running out of data on my phone.
I’d be surprised if people avoid Internet-based messaging because they’re worried about data usage. Text messages use a tiny amount such that they work well even on a throttled connection.
The fact that unlimited SMS became common early in the USA, and few people are messaging internationally probably explains it better.
I would add - US is a load of states but one country; EU is a load of countries. It costs more to text another country, and it used to cost more to use data in another country.
Then the EU said fuck that you greedy cunts and made it illegal to charge more for data while abroad
Also, huge portions of first gen Latinos in America use Whatsapp too - because it’s what they’re used to, to talk to family back home, etc. I worked with a immigration org for a bit and everything was Signal or Whatsapp.
Americans also expected me to leave a voice message instead of sending an SMS when I didn’t reach them. That was quite a culture shock for me.
It’s because back when smartphones and Whatsapp were new, unlimited text messaging plans were either expensive or unavailable in much of Europe (and I would imagine other places as well). From my understanding these kinds of plans were much more common in America.
When your cellphone plan has limited text messages, but sending messages via Whatsapp takes so little data that it might as well be unlimited, the barrier to early adoption becomes very low. So people start using Whatsapp, and get their friends to use Whatsapp. And once that ball is rolling it becomes very hard to stop.
These days people use Whatsapp because everyone else uses Whatsapp.
It’s the assumed default.
Edit: Heck… even to this day I have limited text messages.
My current cellphone plan is for 12 GB, Unlimited calls, and 500 texts.And I’ve not sent a single text message in months, if not years.
I think iMessage and whatever Google had at the time were “good enough” here that WhatsApp never caught on? Like most people already had unlimited texting by the time it hit the scene, so It just felt like a scam back in the day and I remember it wanted my phone number to complete a sign-up and I was damned if I was going to give it to them.
You use iMessage, but that is an Apple-specific thing and can’t even be used on Android phones. Also, Apple does the whole “green bubble blue bubble” thing you got going on and deliberately doesnt support RCS (which would bring stuff like image support to SMS). So we need a messenger than can be used on both iPhones and Android phones. WhatsApp was initially the most popular and thats why it still is.
Apple is adopting RCS this year
But not the google proprietary RCS
Thats good to hear but its hard to switch away from an established product. For example, there is Signal, which has all of WhatsApps features and is completely privacy-oriented but everyone would have to switch at once for it to work…
There is a big uproar about Apple not using googles RCS because (and if I remember correctly) googles RCS is a walled off garden much like iMessage so when Apple does implement RCS it still won’t work on Google devices. Might have to fact check me but I believe that was the early consensus.
It will as far as I know, it just won’t work with the additional features Google have slapped on top but haven’t bothered to try to include in the open standard. It makes sense why people would want it since it includes stuff like E2E encryption, but it’s better this way, since like this the open standard actually has the chance to get these features in the future.
AFAIK: First one to be available on mobile and was independent too. Yes there was a time when WhatsApp was not infested by what we know as meta now. Also people are LAZY DUCKS and don’t want to put in the most minimal of efforts to switch to different platforms.
While I agree that laziness could contribute, you can’t just decide to swap, everyone would have to swop. Especially when Whatsapp is so common in the workplace now.
IMO: iPhones are the minority in the world apart from North America.
Whatsapp became the main “secure” chat service on Android, but iOS always had its own iMessage feature so WhatsApp isnt needed if you’re somewhere with basically zero android phones.
While I agree iPhone market share in the US plays a role too, WhatsApp came out in 2009 - two years before iMessage was launched.
Native apps like iMessage tend to crush third party apps like WhatsApp and messenger to a point.
Look at the rise of Internet Explorer and the fall of Netscape on windows. The rise of chrome and safari on Android and Mac respectively
The US of still slight more Android than iPhone as well
Because in North America it’s only used by shitty employers and crypto scams.
In the US. We use WhatsApp for our family chat because we’re a mixture of Android and Apple. Messages don’t deliver reliably on standard messaging apps.
Even before WhatsApp I used a similar app called Yak! It didn’t have any limit on how long messages you could send, you could send pictures too and the UI was much more polished compared to the messaging apps on phones. Also not everyone had unlimited text messages but everyone had a data plan that effectively enabled unlimited messages over the internet.
I even had an iPhone back then. Never got into iMessages. Even iPhone users all have whatsapp now.
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iOS is less than half the phones in the US
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In Quebec a lot of people use it so it’s not unheard of on North America.
How do thing like rich media, groups, etc work on sms? All these features are baked into messaging apps over data…
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