This toggle is annoying because what was once 1 press to turn on BT is now 2. It gets me every day.
I like the way Nothing OS does it. Tapping the icon toggles Bluetooth on/off, and tapping the text/rest of the button opens the popup.The fuck… now i understand why the hell sometimes it opens me that annoying window … It works the same on miui
Same on OneUI, it’s been part of the UX language for a while.
But the wifi button still pisses me off. I want my separate LTE data toggle back.
I actually have separate buttons for WiFi and data but they were buried in the ‘edit’ list
Not in stock Android 14 / AOSP
I thought Lineage OS was pretty close to AOSP, interesting to discover the things which have been added
Yes the buttons and the “long press power button on display off for flashlight” both small but soo useful things
Gad damn, I use that all the time!
Yup, an issue on the GrapheneOS issue tracker was closed, to implement this feature. Maybe giving it another try might help? Its damn useful and smart, as this has no function
This I can agree with
The way it works right now on my phone is you tap it to turn it on and off and then you long hold to open the setting.
I’m going to be peeved if that goes away in favor of OPs process…
Yeah, long-pressing to open the menu makes intuitive sense regardless of whether you open the menu more than toggle.
That’s how my Samsung works too
I don’t want to go conspiracy theory, but in my opinion it feels like a dark pattern to increase the time people have Bluetooth on. I believe they did the same thing with success for Wi-Fi. If I recall correctly, even when you are not connected to a device, Google can estimate your location based on what Wi-Fi networks you are in proximity to and something to varying degrees might work for Bluetooth as well which is why they also roll the feature over to the Bluetooth toggle
Yeah, this is definitely it. This article is from 2019, so it has probably evolved a lot since then.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/06/14/opinion/bluetooth-wireless-tracking-privacy.html
In addition to the profits from earphones, this is probably another reason for the removal of the headphone jack.
I could never go back to wired earphones though, they were way too annoying
Definitely dark patterns.
Not at all. That’s what people want. Nobody turns off Bluetooth.
Mine is off at all times. This is simply false as I am somebody.
That’s not what people want, that’s why this post exists and it has 69 comments so far.
And the most upvoted comment agrees with me.
Who says that that kind of stuff on Lemmy of all sites?
Then why do I have non-tech people in my life complaining about these toggles within toggles?
For those that want it always on, they could do so just as easily before the update that adds a layer of obfuscation. This is not about what people want.
They already do that regardless of the state of those toggles. You have to turn that off in a different spot.
The main Bluetooth and Wi-Fi toggles otherwise just stop your device from actively associating/pairing with other devices. They do not control the radios.
Thank you for this! I just turned them off. Such bullshit.
Wut. Why would they bother when your cellular connection is constantly pinging all towers to literally triangulate your location? Why do something much more complicated to get data they already have?
The real answer is they are a multi billion dollar company with telemetry. Obviously, the vast majority of people never turn off WiFi or Bluetooth. Most people want quick access to connect to a WiFi network or Bluetooth device, not to toggle either off.
I believe that Wi-Fi points are more accurate than towers especially when they’re sharing the information with indoor retailers
It’s just a usability improvement. Virtually nobody turns off Bluetooth.
Keep saying it. It’ll be true eventually.
Damn, somehow this place is more toxic than Reddit used to be.
What
I have literally never turned it on
It wastes battery and offers literally no benefit whatsoever
Would you shut up already?
Bluetooth give a lot more information about your surrounding (what device your phone detect or connect, for how much time, distance from objects, etc.), not only from your phone alone, but from other people phones who have bluetooth on and e.g. never disable any tracking from google services too. And the Mac address for bluetooth never change, so any device (and tracking company) will know you is forever you. Bluetooth is a privacy nightmare, and this is totally a dark pattern. People not knowing what they’re doing is of course a thing, but it seems just a usual bad practice by google, who like to manipulate especially not tech-savvy people
I was just grumbling about this today. It’s one of those little changes that might help someone, but interrupts a flow that worked well for me.
I prefer this. I’ve been annoyed by having to go to the settings every time I wanted to swap device I want to connect to. I rarely turn off BT anyways.
Before it was a single tap to turn Bluetooth on/off, and a tap+hold to open the Bluetooth settings (or any quick setting tile in your notification tray). Maybe you just didn’t know about that feature but the old way was 100% better.
I knew about it but still prefer this new way
Going through the comments, I think it’s clear to conclude this should be a choice to configure this tile. Some people prefer single tap to turn off, some don’t
I miss the 6 small buttons
I honestly thought this was my own doing and was about to go insane when I couldn’t find the setting to revert this. Why on earth would they do this…
I’ve felt this a lot over the years. Regressions in interface designs happen here and there, and I feel it’s just people justifying their jobs. We have to change this, and that, and EVERYTHING, to keep it fresh. Where in reality, sometimes only some things need changing.
I put buttons on screens for people at work and I’m imagining the fury that would rain down on me if I put 2 buttons in place do a normal thing that was once one button. I would never hear the end of it.
Fuck this noise! Hate it.
It follows the pattern for WiFi/Internet.
Which was also a terrible change.
This was my thought. I often turned my Bluetooth off while trying to switch devices because of habits from the Wi-Fi
I appreciate the consistency. I’ve turned off Bluetooth accidentally too.
Fuck Google’s recent changes to the quick settings panel, really. Especially now that One UI 6 didn’t revert those changes like it was done with One UI 5.
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Does it not turn on Bluetooth before opening that menu?
It does for me.
Bluetooth on: single tap turns it off.
Bluetooth off: single tap turns it on and opens that menu so you can select a device to connect to. (it still connects to the last connected device automatically) From there tapping back or tapping beside it closes it.
Been that way for several years now. (Samsung A54, and A52 prior to this one)
Not on my Pixel 8. Single tap on the Bluetooth button only opens the Bluetooth connection screen with a separate toggle to actually turn on Bluetooth once you’re in there. Google likes to do things the hard way.
Ah… Google devices…
I’m much less confused.
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I just drag down from the top of the screen, and tap the Bluetooth button. That’s it. The Bluetooth connection screen pops up, but that doesn’t turn on Bluetooth. I have tap the toggle to actually turn on Bluetooth, just like OP describes. I have a Pixel 8 with stock Android 14.
Nope.
I think however this is just based on how the average user interacts with this toggle. Very few users actively turn off their BT, ever, as they have frequent situations where they want their BT to just work immediately.
OTOH, this means that in some cases, they need to swap which device to connect to, hence opening the menu on the first tap.
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this entire quick actions shade was redesigned either for children or for elders
the space now used for 4 quick actions could fit 12 quick actions before
I Fucking Hate It!
