cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/17439723
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/17439722
Palestinian Territory – Israel’s army has again massacred Palestinian civilians who had gathered in Gaza to obtain humanitarian aid, targeting them with gunfire from helicopters, tanks, and drones near the Kuwait roundabout on the outskirts of Gaza City. This incident has resulted in over 60 deaths and 160 injuries, some of which are critical.
Is there any point at which the US would allow international pressure to end this genocide? When does it become strategically disadvantageous?
No because they’re the ones sponsoring it
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Hmm. How is 9/11 because isreal?
https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ubl2016/english/To the American people.pdf
As for us, our Iraq was invaded in response to pressure from capitalists with greed for black gold, and you continue to support the oppressive Israelis in their occupation of our Palestine in response to pressures on your administration by a Jewish lobby backed by enormous financial capabilities.
Straight from the horse’s mouth, Osama bin Laden.
Damn son. He was very clear. I have never seen that document. He even concludes with it:
In conclusion: Be assured that we do not fight for mere killing but to stop the killing of our people. It is a sin to kill a person without proper, justifiable cause, but terminating his killer is a right. You should be aware that justice is the strongest army and security offers the best livelihood; you lost it by your own making when you supported the Israelis in occupying our land and killing our brothers in Palestine. The road to safety starts with the stopping of aggression.
I have never seen that document.
It went viral on tiktok a few years ago and they started banning anyone who shared it.
The propaganda war goes both ways, but a lot of useful idiots don’t realize that.
I think it’s sad how most people, including myself, only saw it after it went viral and not before we invaded.
Edit: It’s even sadder because my original comment highlighting how 9/11 happened because of Israel was removed.
This is what I mean by propaganda and indoctrination. There are even people on the mod team that have a vested interest in keeping the truth from people’s eyes if it’s inconvenient for Israel.
The way for change and freeing yourselves from the pressure of lobbyists is not through the Republican or the Democratic parties, but through undertaking a great revolution for freedom: not to free Iraq from Saddam Hussein but to free the White House and to free Barack Husayn so he can implement the change you seek. It does not only include improvement of your economic situation and ensure your security, but more importantly, helps him in making a rational decision to save humanity from the harmful [greenhouse] gases that threaten its destiny.
For the American youth to succeed in this change, they need to relive the history of their ancestors and the conditions in their country more than two centuries ago. They need to understand the similarities during that era and their present situation, especially in their fundamental conditions. The British Parliament sided with corporations, then against the interests
May I ask who this is a quote from? Is this also Bin Laden?
It’s from the link above I think that’s him yeah
(https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ubl2016/english/To the American people.pdf)
Right? It’s not like the people who perpetrated 9/11 actually told us exactly why they did it… Oh wait…
Eh man, I was barely born around that time. I had never seen or heard of the documents
LOOKS LIKE THE LEMMY CENORS ARE OUT IN FULL FORCE
This is the comment that I made that got removed:
Is there any point at which the US would allow international pressure to end this genocide?
No.
When does it become strategically disadvantageous?
Always. We literally had 9/11 because of Israel and still haven’t learned our lesson.
We are literally not allowed to say 9/11 happened because of Israel, despite the mastermind behind the attack literally saying that’s why he did it AND I even provided the source!
https://lemmy.world/comment/8465732
There are some horrible mods on this team with a clear agenda. We cannot trust them.
On Hexbear, mods will remove any mention of 9/11 in remembrance of Salvador Allende and the CIA backed Chilean coup. /s
Once the job is done.
Israel is an example of what a country shouldn’t be like.
every country supporting israel it’s also an example of what countries shouldn’t be like
Massacre upon massacre.
Yet the Zionist stranglehold on our politicians continues
Fuck israel. All my homies hate israel.
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The colonial apartheid state of israel is genociding Palestinian with support from western countries.
And there are still people denying this is a genocide.
I heard a really interesting interview on NPR with Ofer Cassif, the head of an Israeli socialist party who just survived impeachment. He advocates for South Africa’s genocide ICC case. But what was more interesting to me was how he was talking about how Netanyahu is using this as an excuse to turn Israel into a dictatorship, something he already tried with his attempt to reform their supreme court.
https://www.npr.org/2024/01/13/1224635827/israeli-lawmaker-on-the-u-n-genocide-case-against-israel
Israel should be sanctioned like North Korea until they stop their genocide.
Its like crocodiles in a watering hole
If they do that 3 or 4 hundred more times Joe Biden might be VERY angry and give them a couple Billion dollars LESS next time!
You people really believe this is the case? They bring the aid, wait for people to come and then kill bunch of them. Then they repeat this process weekly. You seriously think this is what’s happening? So are inhabitants of Gaza stupid or have gold-fish memory? Naah, don’t think about it bro. Israel bad mkay.
I understand the desire to believe that such a disgusting war crime isn’t actually happening - that it’s all propaganda. This kind of thing is sickening if it’s true.
But I don’t see any evidence that this isn’t exactly what’s happening, and with plenty of evidence that it is we cannot let it continue or offer any support to those who are carrying it out.
Hamas has been leading media war forever. Which is the reason why they don’t care if civilians die because that makes Israel look bad. They said this themselves number of times. We’ve had the whole fiasco with bomb on parking lot where Hamas immediately blamed Israel and gave stupid number of casualties and it took months for independent review on the matter to prove it wrong. By that time everyone jumped on the wagon about Israel bombing hospital.
There are more than one example of this sickening behavior from Hamas. They are the torturers, slaughterers and rapists. And yet majority of people here refuses to believe they might be the one causing issues like these to make Israel look bad. It is actually unbelievable to me that you’d rather believe this is a trap set by Israel with aid where the moment people approach they start shooting, and people of Gaza keep coming back. Stretching your beliefs so hard to blame one party that it borders insanity.
Burden of proof is on the one making claims. Show a video of Israelis shooting on civilians. Everyone has a phone these days and yet not a single photo. Not a single video. We have videos where Hamas is beating civilians and chasing them away from aid. We sure have that, but then people come and say “ah that’s photoshop” that’s fake. There’s NOTHING here. And yet everyone claims it’s true.
Look, I hate Hamas plenty. They are definitely bad guys. They commit terror attacks against Israeli civilians, they use Palestinian civilians as human shields. I have never rooted for them.
But the rules of warfare are quite simple. You cannot under any circumstance deliberately kill civilians. Not if the enemy killed yours first. Not if the enemy uses their own as shields. Civilians are NEVER fair game.
This kind of shit separates the good guys from the bad guys. When Hamas slaughted 1,000 Israeli civilians they showed how bad they are, but Israel slaughtering 25,000+ Palestinian women and children is literally 25x worse.
There are no good guys here, other than the civilians who aren’t choosing to participate in this conflict.
That’s the whole point. I simply can’t accept this claim civilians are so stupid that they keep coming back for aid and keep getting killed. It’s disgusting to insinuate this kind of thing. And while I do agree civilian deaths are never fair game, I can’t but wonder how many of those 25k died because they were not allowed to move or migrate. Kind of how Hamas shot at people using humanitarian corridor to move away from north. Or how they shot at people trying to leave hospitals and other buildings.
I am finding it disgusting that people are sitting and pointing fingers at Israel and others. You know what would have prevented 100% of those 25k victims, not attacking on october 7th. Or any previous occasion.
Genocide Denial is a bad look especially when it’s happening right in front of your face. People are pointing fingers at Israel because Israel is commiting genocide.
The Palestinian people aren’t stupid, they are desperate, because they are under attack by the IDF and their allies.
This one?
The IDF reports that Palestinian gunmen fired at civilians waiting for aid at Kuwait Square in Gaza City last night, resulting in casualties. IDF troops did not fire during the incident.
As per the IDF’s investigation, a convoy of 31 trucks carrying food and humanitarian aid for civilians was en route to northern Gaza. An hour before reaching an IDF-established corridor, armed Palestinians shot at civilians waiting for the aid trucks, according to the probe.
The IDF states that as the aid trucks entered the corridor, the gunmen continued shooting while some Gazans began looting the trucks. The IDF also observed civilians being run over by the trucks.
Hamas health officials reported at least 21 deaths and over 150 injuries in the incident.
After an intensive preliminary review, the IDF concluded that its forces did not fire at the aid convoy at Kuwait Square. The military’s operational systems and troops on the ground did not engage in tank shelling, airstrikes, or gunfire toward the Gazan crowd during the aid convoy’s presence.
https://twitter.com/Osint613/status/1768585030412976318?s=19
The past hundred or so ‘IDF reports’ have been complete lies. Maybe this one will be true.
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Why are you posting Israeli propaganda lol?
Is this string only for Hamas propaganda?
When was the last time someone quoted Hamas here?
The truth is Hamas propaganda now haha.
For anyone that wants to have a laugh here’s a funny video
It supports Hamas but it’s Kremlin propaganda.
Correct.
Falling for “The IDF reports” is as bad as eating the onion at this point
So, terrorist fired at civilians and IDF just watched. How is this better?
Well, the last time this happened in northern Gaza about a week ago, Israel was blamed for the deaths of the people rioting. I suppose they for sure sat back and watched it happen. They would be blamed anyway. Oh look. They were.
Anyway, what occurs to me is that these Egyptian truck drivers, sooner or later, are going to stop delivering aid no matter how much money they make. Can’t spend it when you have bullet wounds. Israel will be blamed for that too.
Sure. Well, since they don’t seem to use any bullets all the time, maybe they should accept a ceasefire right now and a peace treaty in the near future, recognizing the Palestinians’ right to exist in their own territory. How about that?
