I just realized while cooking that a measuring-cup cup (as measured out as 250mL in a glass measuring cup) is the same amount(s) as one of the actual plastic baking measuring cups that go inside each other like Russian dolls lol
I thought they were different somehow (something something imperial metric yadda yadda yaddda)
Your turn to come clean Lemmings!
**EDIT: to clarify, I mean volumetrically for measuring liquids
Mum: we’re definitely going the wrong way
Me: how do you know?
Mum: because we need to go south and we are currently going north
Me: how do you know we are going north?
Mum: because the sun sets in the west
Me: oh…
Technically, you could say we’re the ones who set since it’s the Earth’s rotation causing the change.
Idk, it’s all relative.
I know right! Whenever I do the mnemonic of NESW, North is always directly in front of me. Dont know why people bother with compasses, it’s pretty simple.
In Soviet Russia: government sunsets you!
🎶Certain as the sun/Rises in the East/Tale as old as tyme/Song as old as Rhyme/Beauty and the Beast/🎶
Chipotles are jalapeños. They are just roasted.
There are more peppers like that, too:
poblano - ancho
chilaca - pasilla
anaheim - colorado
mirasol - guahillo
serrano - chile seco
bola - cascabelAlso related: green, yellow, orange, and red bell peppers are all the same pepper, just various stages of ripeness.Guess I had my own dumb moment in this thread. Not sure where I read my take, but the reply to mine is correct.Bell pepper thing is false. Green ones are usually underripe red bells but the other colors are all equally ripe. This is easy to fact check: look for less ripe peppers at the store, they will be red with green splotches rather than yellow or orange. Or you can shop for bell pepper seeds online.
Yeah, seems you’re correct. Not sure where I got my take from, probably something I read a while ago. Thanks for correcting me.
Damn i had the same assumption as you, had i been asked about bell peppers five minutes ago i would been like 99% certain they were all the same but at different ripenesses.
Absolutely wild
There’s purple Belle peppers too!
So its like tea, tea-hee
Almost all chiles have a different name when smoked and/or dried.
I thought they were smoked?
Basically just jalapeño jerky I suppose
Chipototlay
Chipoltay. Like the the first officer on Voyager!
Wat was the story behind ur aha moment re:this?
Rhode Island isn’t really an island. Like, yeah it’s named after one of its islands, but people who live in the state are on the continental part. I thought the whole state was an island lmao
California also isn’t an island, but it’s named after a fictional island in a Spanish novel, and was once thought to be an island.
I used to think it was named after Calphurnia from Julius Caesar when we read that in class. I literally pronounced her name as “Ka-la-fern-ee-uhh”, fuck
The name comes from cal- meaning hot, and forni- meaning sex, from which we get the English word fornication.
Therefore California means “land of hot sex”
Shoulda named it Caliphygia ;)
i thought it was a road
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Why are their schollars so sought after?
I thought Edinburgh was two different places because of pronunciation.
I always read it as pronounced like -berg, but there was this other, similar town pronounced -bruh or -boro that people talked about.
Just one of those place names that didn’t come up often at all, so I never compared them in my head and wondered if “hey, these might be the same place…” It came up and bit me in conversation far too recently where my misunderstanding was worth a laugh among friends.
That, and I thought we’d elect basically decent (as far as politicians go) people to the presidency that would at least honor tradition and the institution. Boy, was I wrong about that.
I think everyone should get a pass on pronouncing the names of British places. All pronunciations are equally correct. Don’t like it? Don’t name a place “Michaeleaulourhoroughsbleachhhiffynboroughshire”
Yeah, when “Leicester” is pronounced “Lester”, you have no hope of figuring pronunciation out without help.
The “ice” is silent. Why is the ice silent?
Because the English decided they were going to save those letters for later.
Obligatory Map Men: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYNzqgU7na4
there was this other, similar town pronounced -bruh or -boro that people talked about.
You were so close: Edinburgh only got its name after Edward I invaded Scotland in 1296. Before that it (which was then a larger area than the present Edinburgh) had just been called “the Burgh”, which depending on regional variation would have been pronounced either “burg” or “boro”. “Edinburgh” referred to a smaller area within the Burgh that the king’s guards would patrol more severely due to the perceived increased risk of rebellion due to higher population density.
(/joke)
Having a tooth pulled wouldn’t be that expensive.
Now I see why Noone in America goes to the dentist
The most annoying part is even if you have coverage, if it has a deductable it hard to get yourself to get in there
This old lady I know went and got a prescription filled last week. The co-pay was $24. Not bad, I don’t know what medicine it is. Then she got home and couldn’t find it. After looking everywhere and not finding it (probably threw it out by accident) she went back to get a refill and said,“I’ll just pay cash for this, I fucked up” and it rung up at $10. The cash price was less than half the insurance price. What the fuck is that?
I work in a pharmacy and never understand these stories. That’s just not how insurance billing works.
Good chance the people at the pharmacy used some sort of discount card that brought the price lower than her insurance. I see that all the time. But a copay can’t be higher than the cash price. That would result in the pharmacy paying the insurance company minus cost to fill the prescription which just wouldn’t happen.
That’s good to hear, because I thought it was insane myself.
U need to investigate that shit for her and our Providence or whatever. Please update me on how the hecks that possible…
I’m in the US. This is some shitty Medicare Advantage rip-off insurance.
So wats the lesson for next refill?
Haha, CASH IS KING!!
Sad! Hehe
You think getting a tooth pulled is expensive? Try getting a new one put in.
Yeah I get to have that experience and payment plan in a few weeks
They are different though! The glass measuring cup is for liquid and the ones that nestle into each other are for dry ingredients. You need to fill the little ‘1 cup’ dry measuring cup to the brim with ingredients to get an accurate measurement, which is pretty much impossible with the glass wet measuring cups.
When you are measuring dry ingredients, you can fill the same cup with more flour or whatever depending on how you fill it as well, but with liquid it’s, well, fluid.
So, you can measure wet ingredients in the dry ingredients cup, but not the other way around.
You shouldn’t use measuring cups of any sort for dry ingredients. Use a scale. And if the recipe gives volumetric measurements instead of weight, you should convert them to weight first. You’ll find your baking/cooking will become more consistent as a result.
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It wasn’t dry stuff, is was water and milk for cooking. It was fine :) Its a good guideline tho re:consistency and definitely for baking/dry ingredients.
I also only eat to live, I don’t have a super sensitive palate so its 99% the time just as well
If you have to eat to live, you may as learn to make it taste as good as you can. You may as well derive as much enjoyment as you can from the things you have to do anyway.
Meh, I’d rather it be little more than passable, so its not addictive and I don’t get fat and also corralled into cooking for anybody else unless I want to ;)
Yup, you’re right. I wouldn’t want to end up fat like Gordon Ramsay either.
In case anyone wants to see the unedited retorts from this chucklefuck:
I’m too tired to destroy you haha, lets be more transient on this line of inquiry;)
I would happily pay for a browser add-on that blocked American recipes.
Who the fuck uses cups to measure, outside of a nursery? 😂
It doesn’t matter for a lot of things. Flour is compressible, but sugar isn’t for example.
Sugar, like salt, is crystalline, and may not be compressible, but the crystal sizes do vary.
10 grams of rock salt will be the same as 10 grams of fine sea salt.
1 cup of rock salt =/= 1 cup of fine sea salt.
Use a scale. Always.
No, sorry but it’s just not important. First, granulated sugar and table salt are both uniform at the macro scale and the individual structure of each crystal is immaterial to measurement at these scales. Secondly, your kitchen scale is neither accurate nor precise enough for it to matter for anything but the most compressible solids.
Secondly, your kitchen scale is neither accurate nor precise enough for it to matter for anything but the most compressible solids.
Since you don’t accept the abstract argument, how about a concrete one.
This is a pizza dough recipe I make often,
Despite volumetric measurements being offered, there is no way to consistently get a 1/3 of a 1/4 of a teaspoon. But, I am able to get 0.3 grams consistently with a scale.
That’s a twelfth of a teaspoon, also known as a “pinch”. I bet you thought that wasn’t a real measurement. https://www.amazon.com/Norpro-Stainless-Measuring-Spoons-smidgen/dp/B0009X1P9S?th=1 Here’s the measuring spoons to accomplish that.
Why is it so important that your homemade pizza dough be so perfectly consistent? Good grief lmao
I mean, you’re right, it’s marginally better, but like … Does it really matter that much? Can you even tell difference without a side by side comparison? I’m sure your pizza dough is just as delicious using a plain old inconsistent pinch instead of a scale.
Long fermentations require precise measurements if you want consistency.
Consistency isn’t necessary, but I like tweaking baking recipes one ingredient at a time. And since I have several scales, including one that will measure up to 10 grams with a precision of +/-0.01 grams, I figure why not be precise and consistent.
But, I am able to get 0.3 grams consistently with a scale.
You are consistently able to get your scale to read 0.3 grams. That is not the same as being able to consistently get 0.3 grams or have the same mass of a substance read out at 0.3 grams.
People should be required to do more lab work before just posting bullshit online.
Do you enjoy shifting goalposts?
Why are you declaring the inaccuracy of their scale as if it’s fact? You don’t even know what kind of scale they’re using and you end your comment with some grade-A “everyone is dumb except for me” crap like you somehow shut down their entire argument.
Not to mention how easy it is to test what you’re arguing about. I literally just did this a few days ago with my roommate who was trying to bake some brownies. 3 scoops of flour placed on a scale resulted in 3 different readings that had a range of ~15g. I don’t care how inaccurate you’re going to claim my scale is, that’s a very large discrepancy.
You should use a scale, but most kitchens don’t have a scale in them. I wasn’t trying to make things more difficult with my reply.
Every single kitchen I’ve ever been in had scales in it wtf
Well apart from that junkie bastard I met but he probably sold them for crack
Then you live in a fantasy lane and need to realize that the majority of the world doesn’t live in the same world as you. Have you also never seen a check engine light in a car?
97% of the world doesn’t use cups. Tell me more about this majority :)
….you do realize that they are still called ‘measuring cups’ in other countries right? They aren’t called ‘measuring 250 grams’.
Solids weigh different amounts. You are talking about ml here. This is a good example of why it isn’t ideal.
Being good at cooking means knowing when that kind of precision is needed and when it isn’t. For most things, it isn’t.
Being good at baking means knowing it’s always needed.
It wasn’t dry stuff, is was water and milk for cooking. It was fine :)
The real hack comes when you realize you can weigh everything, so you never have to clean measuring devices ever again.
When I make cookies, I use a scale, and bake them on parchment paper. As a result, I only have to clean a bowl, and a spoon (and barely the baking sheet).
Measuring dry ingredients by volume is about as accurate as most kitchen scales, lol.
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I appreciate you jumping to conclusions about my intelligence. Really points to the good faith of your comment. But despite your bad faith:
Those conversions are readily available on Google. The point is not to have an exactly accurate conversion from volume to mass, but to have a consistent starting point to use from that point on. If you know how much of each ingredient was added by weight the last time you made something, it is easy to update ingredient amounts to make the recipe perfect.
I know that’s a pretty simple concept, but I spelled it out for you since you don’t inspire much confidence in your critical thinking skills, ass.
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It’s always funny when people just go “haha wooow your so wrong lol… geez wow ur wrong lol” instead of actually responding to a comment.
This guy said nothing rude, nothing controversial, just gave some cooking/ baking advice.
You see they mistakenly said weight rather than mass (something that a ton of people do, all the time, while being entirely aware of the difference between the two) and tried to show off how smart you were by being a total dick for no reason.
Then when the person actually responds to your comment, you try to puff your chest online one last time before shutting the fuck up and abandoning thread before you can make yourself look more of a semantics-jerking twit. Love it, keep up the energy king.
someone that confuses weight and mass
What, do you expect him to make his next batch of cookies on the moon?
I bet when filling out medical forms they cross out “weight” and write a paragraph explaining to their medical professionals the difference between mass and weight.
It’s still the same volume. Saying they are different is misleading. They just have different use cases.
I didn’t say the volume was different? I said the containers are different making it more difficult to get the proper volume of dry goods. You can’t flatten off 1 cup of flour that’s measured in a 2 cup measuring cup.
OP thought they were different as in different volumes, and then came to understand their mistake. you then came in to proclaim that they are different, then described how certain containers are harder to measure certain materials. Regardless of ease of use, a cup is a cup is a cup, so long is the “cup” in question is 8 oz of volume. Yes, some measurement tools have a different physical shape and may be more difficult to use for certain tasks, but that was not the “difference” being misidentified.
Also, you absolutely could use a glass measuring cup for flour, just tamp it down and go slowly, but that’d be stupid. Regardless, this is why using weight measurements for baking is vastly superior to using volume.
Aha, thanks for clarifying this :) And yes, I was measuring out liquids so that tracks
No worries! For cooking it wouldn’t be a big issue either way, but when it comes to baking you want to be precise.
And measuring by volume isn’t very precise. Measure by weight.
It gets the job done, and is a lot easier for most people(plus most kitchens don’t have a scale). Don’t gatekeep cooking
It’s not gate keeping. It’s just as easy to get a scale as it is to get measuring cups. People should use the right tool for the job so they don’t fuck up and lose their confidence to try again.
Scales are non essential tools that cost $20 or more, sure they do make things accurate but i honestly doubt you can tell if something your eating was cooked using measurements from a scale or with Betty Crocker measuring cups that are $3.
How young are you guys, Jesus Christ 😂
Lemmy users are extremely young. Buncha kids around here
Oh him? He’s about 2000 years young.
And that man’s name?
Jesus Christo
I will not confirm nor deny
Young. Very young.
That social skill and practical skills are far more valuable than theory.
Unless you’re really, really good at theory. See Von Neumann, Murray Gell-Mann, John Nash, and many others. It really goes for anyone who’s talented significantly above their peers in tech, the arts, sports…
The problem is that it scales with talent, so someone who’s modestly brilliant will get less leeway than a Nobel (or EGOT) level talent, and talent seems to scale non-linearly.
Exactly so, and I am below average Joe.
Wait, you are saying that’s something you believed but learned was wrong. You now believe that theory is more valuable than social & practical skills? Or the other way round?
I used to believe that knowledge was the most valuable. I now know it isn’t and that other stuff such as social skills are much more important.
Ah, that makes more sense. I think the way op’s question is worded makes reading a lot of the answers here confusing.
Humans are basically good.
A cup is 8 ounces, 237ml.
“Measuring cups” come in a variety of labeled sizes.
I’m sorry, you thought a cup wasn’t… a cup?
A cup can refer to a variety of different measurements (see Cup (unit) - Wikipedia). The cup OP referenced is a metric cup, a US customary cup is 8 US fluid ounces. Measuring cups can come labelled using cups as a unit, usually including a whole cup, and that is presumably what OP was referring to.
A cup is 8 ounces, 237ml.
It depends. It’s usually standardised by country; 200ml, 240ml and 250ml are common values.
OP is likely from a Commonwealth country while you’re probably from USA. If that’s correct: note that your country has two measurements for cups, 237ml and 240ml.
I wish I had some of the CommonWealth my country’s a part of :(
I think they are referring to the measuring spoons used for dry ingredients. In middle school home ec class, we were told to never use dry measuring tools for liquids and vice versa, the teacher implied that the measurement would be different
I was cooking with my 8 year old daughter the other day. Recipe said 1 cup of water so she brought me a random cup from her cabinet with water in it. Too cute.
Was she wrong haha
A measuring cup is not the same as a ‘cup’ used in a recipe like “one cup of flour”. Although in the US it is often is the same size.
I don’t know what measuring cups you have, but my biggest ones hold 1 cup.
I’ve got one that goes up to 8 cups. It really looks more like a large bowl than a cup.
I’ve read the word “cup” too many times now that it is starting to sound like a nonsense word.
Just switch it up to cuppa
US cups are weird. I was having trouble with cups I bought where I live overseas which are 250ml and slightly bigger. No difference in some recipes, definite one Lin others. If you are ONLY using those cups, it should be fine as all things are still proportional. But, if using other measures, things can get off.
Additional fun: a Canadian cup used to differ from both US and UK but eventually came to match the UK size
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Well those wires that hold telephone poles and other such tall objects in position? those aren’t called “guide-wires.”
They’re called “Guy wires.”
I think that’s pretty dumb of everyone else tho
Haha, that sounds like more of a BoneAppleTea or Rickyism but funny nontheless ;) Its not even objectively unreasonable, so props smartypants
Every time I drive into the city centre I pass a sign for the Eastport exit. You never hear about Eastport on the news and I figured it must be the most boring part of the city - until I finally realised it was the sign for the East motorway exit to reach the sea port. 😟
I thought a half ton truck referred to its curb weight.
There were WMDs.
How did they ever show receipts or evidence of the whole WMD thing to begin with? Or is it just 9eleben was a hell of drug?
That was back when people took the administration at their word. Mah terrism held a lot of pull immediately after 911. Plus you had useful idiots like Judith Miller out there trumpeting the narrative.
But the experience cured me of that disease. And then Snowden happened to finish the job.
Its such a charitable act to refer to anything Bush administered as adminstration hah
“Mission Accomplished”
Honest question, have you ever measured anything for cooking?
You really can’t measure solids in the liquid cup and you can’t really measure liquids in the solid cups.
