Hamas rejected a hostage deal drafted in Paris over the weekend because it did not include a permanent ceasefire.
As much as I wish the hostages can be freed, real politic says it’d be fucking idiotic of them to do so.
If they do agree to the ceasefire, they’ll continue to be slowly wiped out like they have by settlers and other apartheid policies over the past 70 years as soon as it ends - if Israel doesn’t break the truce early or just focuses purely on the West Bank who wouldn’t be part of the deal and who continue to be oppressed, kicked off their land, kidnapped, or murdered by Israel even without Hamas there.
Whereas right now is probably the most success they’ve ever had against Israel, large swathes of millennials and Zoomers worldwide are completely turned off supporting them after witnessing the genocidal unfolding. Meaning the future of western political support for Israel could dry up over the following decades as more boomers pass on.
No surprise. What Israel is demanding is the release of all the hostages, at which point Hamas has no leverage against a state that has repeatedly demonstrated that they want to obliterate the Palestinians.
at which point Hamas has no leverage
It’s astonishing that it has to be said but rape is neither resistance nor leverage.
He’s talking about the hostages though, did you miss that?
They are saying hostages are being raped.
Acting like Hamas totally wouldn’t rape them while in captivity like they did on Oct 7th: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-01-23/ty-article/.premium/hostage-released-from-gaza-says-hamas-treated-female-hostages-like-dolls/0000018d-35d9-db8f-a7df-37fb5cf70000 (Archive link: https://archive.is/EN0ds)
That they don’t allow the Red Cross access to the hostages is also very damning.
Released hostage Aviva Siegel said Tuesday morning in a Knesset lobby for the victims of sexual and gender violence that Hamas terrorists turned the hostages in the Gaza Strip into “puppets with whom they could do what they wanted, when they wanted, and it’s beyond belief that they’re still there.”
Siegel said that she was “a witness to … The terrorists bringing [the female hostages] inappropriate clothing, dolls clothes.” She added, “We’ll soon reach four months [since they were kidnapped]. We were there for 51 days and there wasn’t a minute that we didn’t experience abuse – and they are still there.”
“The girls are being raped there and nobody reports on [it],” continued Shir. "We no longer have the option of sitting here and continuing to talk politely. At this very moment, there is somebody sitting in a cave being raped
“We’re almost four months after [they were kidnapped], past the point of terminating a pregnancy, why do we have to come here to convince this?”
Not one minute.
All you care about is these hostages when there is so much more that both of the belligerents can do to appease one another. Neither Israel nor Hamas is arguing in good faith and neither are you.
Hamas started this war for propaganda. They’ll never let those poor female hostages tell of their horrors - that will look bad.
They’ll pretend to want peace while never taking the next step, all while their people die.
The people on here pretending that continuing the war in any way helps the situation are sickening.
The people on here pretending that continuing the war in any way helps the situation are sickening.
No they’re saying that giving up your only leverage is a stupid idea. This is about the politics of war and negotiation. The only thing keep Palestinian and Hamas from being paved over into a parking lot are the hostages. But it’s not like the IDF gives a fuck about the hostages anyway
Hamas started this war for propaganda. They’ll never let those poor female hostages tell of their horrors - that will look bad.
Everyone knows Hamas is bad. How many ppl do you see saying, “I stand with hamas”. The ongoing opinion is there is no good guy in this. Only civilian (mostly Palestinian civilians) victims
Leverage? Hostages are getting raped and Palestinians are dying enmass and starving.
Perhaps you live in a universe where all this leverage hamas has in the hostages has in any way limited the IDF actions?
Leverage over lives…it sickens me.
Well they’re negotiating over it right now so clearly it’s has limited the IDF in that way
Hamas is never letting those women go. You’re deluding yourself if you think otherwise. In effect all you’re doing is arguing in favour of a terrorist organisation raping hostages. Mull on that sometime.
In the meantime the Palestinians will start eating all that leverage hamas has secured no doubt.
At this point I’m starting to wonder if most the hostages remaining are already dead. Constantly getting close to a deal only to reject it with absurd demands is common for Hamas, but they usually take some short term deals to regroup. If they make a deal and can’t deliver live hostages, it probably gets much worse for them than the current actions.
I don’t think they’ll ever get that, no matter the fate of the hostages.
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No surprise as they already gave a hint earlier today: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-fires-rockets-central-israel-army-intercepts-some-them-2024-01-29/