We spend half our lives online nowadays and it’s obviously causing damage to our health. Do you think it would be worth the benefits to stop carrying a smartphone and to disable the WiFi at home?
You’ll probably get the biggest benefit by getting off social media.
Stop using social media. Yes. Good idea.
Stop using the internet entirely? No. Bad idea.
Depends on what you do when online.
Are you actively searching for knowledge so you learn how to do things (playing a game, an instument, learning how to fix something), reading (news) from various sources or asking questions out of interest? No, not worth stopping, never stop being curious and learning.
Are you passively consuming all that’s being pushed/force fed to you? Yep, but don’t quit, change how you use internet. Use it to your own good, not so companies can have you hooked.
Here, the phone is in the livingroom on a shelf when I’m at home and don’t need it for 2fa. Also, default notification sound is None and I set a sound for things I want to be notified of like ring tone, sms, personal messages (no group), calendar and set a dnd period between 21:00 and 7:00. I use a tablet for gaming as alternative for TV. (Although I’d be better off to read the magazines that are piling up ;) )
Switching from Reddit to Lemmy helped me. Reddit is just a hose of brain rot. Refresh, click, refresh, click. Turned into a zombie.
Lemmy I actually post, comment and discuss things with people. Almost feels like I’m waking up from a long coma.
I tried to switch from Reddit to Lemmy completely, but the communities for the games I play stayed there. I already wrote off Reddit for anything general, but for the games it’s a nice source of info. (The subs I’m in are good in self regulating)
I use Lemmy more for general discussions, reading or when available, specific communities (like fountainpens, bass, …) and when I feel like it, go back to Reddit for the very few subs I’m still interested in, mainly due to lack of info elsewhere. (Facebook account was deleted january 1st, so 2-3 more days and it’s really gone) Next to that I’m on dedicated fora.
I have to say, being on Lemmy feels like how I started on internet in '94, more nerds then commoners to chat with, which is a huge pro (seeing people knowing they have brains and how to use them ;) ).
i’ve been trying this year to actively stop myself and get up and do a chore or play guitar or something if i’ve been rotting in bed scrolling thru tiktok for more than 10 minutes. i always feel way way better upon stopping and actually doing something –
but every single time it’s so hard to work up the effort. or…courage, even? is somehow the word that comes to mind – the algos lock you in and make you feel like the real world is too much effort, simply scroll up or down to see more videos, you’re safe here. it’s very very strange when you try to actively analyze what’s happening
I started playing bass last year. As I work in IT I wanted a hobby that forced me to do something different with my hands. I started tinkering with cars, but space limitations put that on hold. (I really need to clean out the garage) I try to pick up the base and use it a bit after working from home and I have to say, even though I’m bad, I’m improving in small steps and I’m enjoying myself. A medical issue kept me away from the bass for 5 months, but that’ll ge fixed tuesday.
The only way to survive the social media rat race is not to enter. Find something that challenges you.
It makes sense to spend some time away from it to reorient your life. And I guess some people live without it. But it brings a lot of positives if used in moderation.
I’d say no, the benefits vastly outweigh the drawbacks. But yeah, it’s important to have enough discipline to get outside and do plenty of stuff that doesn’t revolve around the internet
I think I disagree. The benefits of portable internet are negligable, but the harm is significant.
Opioids are popular, too, and have significant benefit as well. There are a lot of parallels than can reasonably be drawn between smart phones and opioids.
The internet, in general, is a net good; it’s the accessability to that dopamine button controlled by corporate interests that tips the scales for smart phones. IMHO, of course.
I have to navigate my city’s public transit system every day, so mobile internet has been a game changer for me personally. Thanks to that I’m able to check live arrivals and see which station it makes more sense to walk to in my neighborhood, or figure out exactly when where to switch lines (also based on live arrival times), etc.
Having access to streaming music doesn’t hurt, either. IMO it really just comes down to not installing dopamine slot machines (e.g., basically any social media). Keep the thing simple and utilitarian
Navigation is the one area I agree has benefit, although there are some not sucky offline navigation apps. They’d be better if Maps hadn’t dominated the market and knocked the motivation out of everyone else. Modern CPUs are more than capable of planning routes, and modern storage more than big enough to hold several states worth of roadmap data; there’s no fundamental reason other than user tracking for nav being offloaded to servers.
Personally, I never stream music; if I’m going to pay for it, I want to own it, not just rent it. My phone’s a couple of years old and has 256GB - more than enough for all of the music I listen to.
Why stop at internet, stop using keyboards as they’re used to cause so much harm. And pen and paper, so much harm has been done by letters, books, messages. Slippery slope.
Internet is a tool. You can whitelist content to suit your needs rather than allow the floodgates of ad tech play with your mind. I remember the days before the internet. Bureaucracy galore, queuing for basic services, relying on the whims of some individual to get simple actions performed. It wasn’t fun. With today’s low attention span and low tolerance for boredom most people would have a mental breakdown.
As a web developer, I would rather not lose my entire industry. I was very poor until I started this work. And I still have a lot of catching up to do!
I mean, “obviously causing damage to our health”
The issue with that is the question “And do what?”
Like what matters is that you do something that is actually healthy for your body. Internet is if anything probably a step up from the age of couch surfing on the TV, since you at least need to actively navigate it. Mostly meaning to say that you could easily just choose something that isn’t any better.
But either way you’d be better off just choosing something healthy to do, like exercise.
I stopped carrying a cell phone in my pocket and over the past year or so I’ve gotten much better at talking to strangers and appreciating my surroundings. Pretty based if you ask me.
Yes, but not long term.
You’ll always wanna return to hang out with the Animal Crossing villagers aka Lemmy users sometime. Just say you’re on holiday for a bit (for Muricans: on vacation).
Lol, Lemmy is like animal crossing except all the villagers have the cranky personality type
Lol
Try it for 1 day then report back to us. Curious how it will go.
If you’re really going to try it, give it at least a week or two. You know you’re going to be jonesing for it a little bit–give yourself more than a single day before saying it’s hopeless.
I certainly recommend taking breaks from the internet every now and again. I didn’t really have the internet until sometime in highschool (it depends if you consider AOL before the WWW addition “the internet”, though I guess we had BBS and such before that). When out on my own, we couldn’t afford a monthly dial-up subscription, so we didn’t use it that much. Certainly, no internet in my pocket until I was into my 20s, and certainly not full browsers, etc. like today. Maybe that makes it easier for me, but I don’t know.
We spend half our lives online nowadays and it’s obviously causing damage to our health.
Any time an argument begins with “obviously” alarm bells ring. If it’s obvious it must be easy to find a reference?
Anyway, if I stopped using the Internet I would be immediately out of a job and unable to communicate with most of my friends. So even if there is some kind of health damage it probably still wouldn’t be worth it.
Depends what issues you are trying to address.
Likely no issues turning it off most of the time.
There are retreats one can go on with time lock safes to put phones in.
As someone who remembers a time without even answering machines, let alone computers at home: yes, absolutely. We are definitely worse off.
You’re free to turn off your internet service and disable data on your phone.
Ah yes the time when everyone sat around the TV, force fed garbage chosen by a network exec. We are truly better off.
