• cmac@lemmy.world
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    3 years ago

    Why is chocolate milk on this graphic but not regular (non-espresso) coffee? The chocolate milk is the only thing without espresso in it.

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      3 years ago

      There is no “non-espresso” coffee in Italy. You’re basically describing how the Americano came to be.

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        3 years ago

        Espresso is coffee brewed by forcing water through the grounds at high pressure. As opposed to “regular” coffee made in something like a drip coffee maker, pour over cone, or French press.

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        3 years ago

        Sounds like you either don’t like strong flavors, or haven’t had good espresso. Modern espresso even can have paper filters.

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        3 years ago

        Espresso is so much better. The coffee is more full-bodied, smooth, and nuanced. You must not have had good espresso.

        Drip coffee is just dirty water.

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            3 years ago

            It sounds like we could be friends. I agree with everything you said in both comments. Light roast pour over all the way.

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            3 years ago

            If you live in the US, most coffee places try really really hard to be like Starbucks, which is to say they use low quality coffee, load their drinks with sugar, and don’t actually know how to tamp properly.

            I get mad at coffee shops for copying Starbucks because SB is just so bad.

            I’ve been using an espresso machine for a couple years and have admittedly become a snob about it because the flavor of proper espresso with good steamed milk is awesome.

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      3 years ago

      because regular coffee is for peasants. it’s so god awful that hot chocolate is better.

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      3 years ago

      First time trying a flat white my wife and I had an epiphany. We always ordered cappuccino but didn’t care about the foam. Now it’s our go to coffee, unless I need to get a real energy boost. In that case ristretto or espresso with sugar is my go to.

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    3 years ago

    Hate it when I order a Ristretto but the waiter brings an espresso. Great, now I am 5% more energized than I wanted to be

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      3 years ago

      I know this is a joke but as a burgeoning espresso snob, I can’t help myself from explaining:

      A ristretto’s importance is in its stronger coffee flavor. It’s the same amount of coffee, but with less water run through the grounds. In a standard espresso, that last little bit of coffee added beyond a ristretto pull is much more watery, and so it mellows out the flavor. A ristretto is sharper and more of a punch. In my opinion, its most effective use is in a flat white, in which the aim is to remove as much water from the equation as possible and really let the coffee flavor shine through into the smaller amount of milk. Both ingredients’ flavors are more apparent in a flat white than in, say, a latte, which is in some regards a watered down flat white.

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    3 years ago

    Neat. This has more than one seen on other charts. I guess only Italian variations, though? I was looking for cortado, but it’s Spanish. It’s most similar to the flat white but with 50/50 espresso and milk

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    3 years ago

    They missed mine,

    2tsp dark brown sugar 8 drops of vanilla extract 1/2 tsp chocolate powder 4 shots espresso made with the other ingredients already in the cup Lightly stir

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        3 years ago

        Never heard of it. Convergent evolution at work!

        Espresso is good but how about a little sweetener…tried a few things landed on not just brown sugar but dark brown sugar. Mocha is good so let’s try chocolate powder too, dialed it in. Vanilla is nice with both brown sugar and chocolate let’s at that too.

        I might try a sprinkle of powdered salt on top next

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          Yep - Italian cappuccino has no chocolate foam and the variation is the amount of milk. All of them, including the flat white, use steamed milk with variations on the foam by how it’s been steamed (i.e. introducing a lot of foam or next to none).