• southsamurai
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    1051 year ago

    It’s kinda crazy that it took the combined culinary efforts of at least 4 nations to create something genius that would piss off all of those nations.

    Also, pineapple on pizza is fucking delicious, and I will fight over that personal opinion being as valid as it sucking :)

    • Bumblebb
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      111 year ago

      Whats even crazier is the ethnobotanical path to GET those ingredients together.

      Tomatoes had to be brought from south america. Bred to grow at lower altitudes. Peasants had to be persuaded to eat them (they were formally animal feed because they were from the nightshade family and peasants didn’t trust the fruit not to be poisonous since the leaves are) and then enough time (100 years) had to pass for them to develop cuisine around them.

    • @NIB@lemmy.world
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      61 year ago

      In Greece, eating feta cheese with watermelon(or melon) is somewhat common. You combine the sweetness of the watermelon with the saltiness of feta. And both things are cold.

      • @dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net
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        61 year ago

        In Italy, prosciutto with melon is pretty common. Sweet and savory as a combination is pretty common. See also: sharp cheddar on apple pie.

      • southsamurai
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        11 year ago

        Yup, and it’s yummy as hell.

        Here in the south, and maybe elsewhere, we sometimes add a nice hunk of extra sharp cheddar on top of our apple pie for the same reason. Heck, any number of fruit plates will be served with cheeses, and vice versa.

        Once you get into the sweet, salt, fat, acid combo, it really doesn’t matter what you use to get them.

        To quote a great American show, “pork chops and applesauce”. “Hawaiian” pizza is just a different version of the same basic idea

      • Bumblebb
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        11 year ago

        That’s common in California, too. Watermelon, feta and a little bit of lime juice is a frequent summer salad.

    • @RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
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      31 year ago

      Pineapple, Canadian bacon, pepperoni, red onion, and balsamic drizzle. My recent stroke of genius from the local unlimited topping pizza place.

    • @platypus_plumba@lemmy.world
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      31 year ago

      It really depends on the quality of the pineapple to me. Sometimes it is dry and it sucks. Sometimes it is kinda melted, which gives a sweet to the pizza without making the texture weird.

    • Flying SquidOP
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      161 year ago

      I was once in a Filipino grocery in L.A. and they had corn and cheese ice cream. I don’t mean they had corn ice cream and they had cheese ice cream, I mean they had an ice cream flavor called “corn and cheese.”

    • rustydomino
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      71 year ago

      Yup. You can get it in the USA at Asian grocery stores, and even in some American stores located in areas with large Asian populations. And it’s fucking delicious.

      • aubertlone
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        81 year ago

        Just fyi, it tastes nothing like maple syrup.

        I felt the same way when I heard about it. Made it one night, turns out it is just a very slightly sweeter curry than the normal katsu curry base.

        • The Assman
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          41 year ago

          Came here to say this. I asked myself, “what could be Vermont about curry?” The answer is pretty much nothing. It’s real good tho

  • Lvxferre [he/him]
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    131 year ago

    It gets even messier.

    Modern tomato sauce used in pizza is a variation of the sauce in southern Italy. People were cultivating tomatoes there after they were introduced by Spain, that controlled both that region and the North American lands formerly controlled by the Aztec city-States (nowadays by Mexico).

    Where are tomatoes from? South America. Yup. The lands are today Peru’s and/or Ecuador’s. Likely domesticated way before Cuzco/Inca expanded over the region. In the meantime, the pineapples being put over the pizza are from another region, the Paraná basin (currently controlled by Brazil and Paraguay).

    Then you got the dough. Wheat was domesticated somewhere in the Fertile Crescent; I think that the lands currently controlled by Iraq should be a safe bet. In special, Eastern Rome (aka Byzantium) used to control Naples too, spreading πίτα/pita (a type of flat bread) again into the region. (I say “again” because the Aeneid already talks about pizza, in Republican times.)

    Cows (for the cheese) were domesticated a bit further to the west, probably what’s today controlled by Syria… well, at least one of the times, because you can almost hear haunting zebu moos from what’s controlled now by Pakistan. (I believe that most domestic breeds should be a cross between both, with varied amounts of zebu x taurus. And perhaps a third stock from the Maghreb.)

  • @sachamato@lemmy.world
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    111 year ago

    I go to Italy often just to eat real Italian food. I understand that for Italians, the hawainana pizza is an aberration, like many other things if not cooked as they traditionally do. And I respect it, because it’s a key part of their culture. Still, I have a right to eat and like whatever I want, so I also expect respect on that sense. Some people will do this and some others won’t. I think it’s a personal choice to decide respecting others opinions.

    • Pooptimist
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      21 year ago

      They make pizza dulce with Nutella, so I can get my pizza with pineapple

    • @supercriticalcheese@lemmy.world
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      21 year ago

      They don’t have to serve you what you want if it’s not on the menu, they can try to accommodate if they really want but that’s about it.

      But if you don’t have the ingredients they cannot really do that can they.

      • @Sagifurius@lemm.ee
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        11 year ago

        I get that shit ALL the time. I have 34 wing flavours, a number of them address the sweet n savoury/sour thing I personally detest. I don’t carry the disgusting bulk sweet n sour sugar sauce common to this region and continually get people staring at the 34 flavours and and ask “do you have honey mustard or sweet n sour”? No. I don’t. That’s not what I’m doing here, if I had that, it would be listed. Literally every other place has that, I’m fucking trying to impart some taste to the region no matter how miniscule.

  • @neo2478@sh.itjust.works
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    101 year ago

    Whats a Canadian from Greece? Was the guy Greek living in Canada? Doesn’t that just make him Greek? Or was it a person born in Canada with Greek ancestry? That would not make him from Greece.

  • @spittingimage@lemmy.world
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    91 year ago

    Just think, if you open your mind and let other cultures be your inspiration, you too could invent something as reviled and divisive as Hawaiian pizza.

  • BarrierWithAshes
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    91 year ago

    This is why I can never hate on hawaiian pizza. It is a true-born Canadian pizza, birthed from these frozen wastes.

  • @Sagifurius@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    The Germans seem to think they invented it. Order it in Sweden, and it’ll come with bananas.

  • kindenough
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    A fruit native to Brazil. We call it “pizza hawaii” in the Netherlands and it’s tasty. Ananas, ham and cheese, perfection I say, pizza puritan snobs be damned.

    • Lvxferre [he/him]
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      31 year ago

      I’m not too sure if pineapples are native from the lands currently controlled by Brazil, Paraguay, or both. The Amerindians farmed them quite a bit, so they spread even to to a chunk of North America; and the native range of a relative hints me that the genus originated further west.

      That’s just a guess though - the point is that nobody knows for sure.

    • BarrierWithAshes
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      21 year ago

      I feel one day people will learn to appreciate Brazilian pizza. We’re not in that time yet though.

    • nocturne
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      11 year ago

      I personally cannot stand pineapple on my pizza (despite wanting to like it). And really do not care what other people put on their food.

    • Lvxferre [he/him]
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      The idea reminds me Roman (as in the city, not the empire) pizza al taglio.

      I wonder how they’re baking the dough. A 100m large oven? Roll in, roll out? Multiple separated chunks? Baking it rolled, then unrolling it?

    • Flying SquidOP
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      -71 year ago

      Hey, I’m with you. I think it’s awful and that the people who enjoy it should be taken out back and shot.

      But I just don’t have the energy to take my wife out back and shoot her.

      • nocturne
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        51 year ago

        Imagine getting so worked up over what makes someone else happy.

        • Flying SquidOP
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          11 year ago

          Do you think I really plan to shoot my wife for liking pineapple on her pizza?

          • @Coreidan@lemmy.world
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            51 year ago

            I find it hilarious how offended people get over Hawaiian pizza.

            Eat what you enjoy. Anyone who has a problem with what food I enjoy can eat me.