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This is being pushed back from 2030, so it’s not good news. Just a delay on the law.
Climate scientists: “The climate is fucked now! We needed to intervene 20 years ago. We must take emergency intervention!”
Government/industry: “We’ll get right on that in 10-15 years.”
Right up until 2030 when they push it back to 2045.
New cars are ludicrously expensive, especially EVs.
The most I can afford to spend on a car is maybe £14K, and that’s under the proviso that about £4K of that is my own money and the rest is a loan to be paid off over about 6 or 7 years.
So yeah, I’m going secondhand ICE with about 50K miles on the clock and praying it doesn’t die before the loan is paid off (and preferably longer still so I can save a bit more towards the next one).
I’m all for EVs, but they’ve got to bring the price down, and they’ve got to get the batteries to last long enough for the secondhand market to be viable.
Most importantly. Where the fuck are renters supposed to charge these fucking things?
This is why mass EV adoption is not going to happen. Good luck convincing landlords to install chargers.
I’m not dicking around for 2 hours at a station every week waiting for a charge, let alone multiple times a week.
At home? If you drive less than 30mi a day on average, you can plug into a normal wall outlet.
Certainly something that needs to be addressed by them, or manufacturers will not be able to sell them. They will be punished unless they help with solutions.
I’ve seen several possibilities floated around here, so we have 12 years to build out one or more of them
- landlords with off street parking can be incented or required to provide chargers, by zoning changes. Also at some point they won’t be able to find tenants unless they do
- faster batteries will help reduce the wait time if you visit a supercharger once a week. It seems like we’re already down to half an hour to charge 5%—>80%
- slow chargers at every destination (work, shops, restaurants) can keep you always topped off cheaply and without waiting
- some street parking is conducive to charging, such as with pre-existing streetlight wiring
Look at Dundee for your answers.
This is one of the things a deadline like this should help with. Manufacturers know they need to sell a certain percentage of EVs, going to 100% on a specific date. They can’t just build them, they have to sell them. If EVs are still too expensive, they won’t be able to sell them, and the manufacturer is out of luck
Battery prices per kWh dropped 87% from 2010 to 2020. It’s likely to be around the same over the next decade–there’s tons of money pouring into research, and we’re far from theoretical limits. This is not going to be a problem by 2030.
It probably doesn’t hold true for england, but I got a used bolt with 40k mi on it for $14k. Used EVs are out there.
Whoever thinks EVs are zero emission should be slapped with tires and brake dust.
Maintaining personal transportation infrastructure aint free too.
Nope, same goes with public transport. Trams are actually pretty bad in terms of particular matter
The Brits have a niche position on sports car manufacturing. It will be fun to see new models of Morgan’s and TVRs.
Not great news there yet: “There was also a provision for manufacturers of fewer than 2,500 cars a year that exempts them from the rules until 2030. The British sports car makers Aston Martin Lagonda and McLaren both argued that they would be unable to meet the targets”
Here is a good electric sports car from a small high-quality manufacturer like the ones you mention, but it is from the Netherlands: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aTzuUrdyIc
Whoops someone realised they’d likely still be in their position when 2030 comes rolling by and would have to make an effort
Guess we are just gonna have to pull a Cuba and maintain them for decades.
