Firefox users are reporting an ‘artificial’ load time on YouTube videos. YouTube says it’s part of a plan to make people who use adblockers “experience suboptimal viewing, regardless of the browser they are using.”

  • @Synthead@lemmy.world
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    882 years ago

    Wouldn’t it be neat if YouTube had reasonable competition? You know, so when YouTube adds a five-second delay as a strange style of punishment, a different platform would look more attractive?

    • Chozo
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      742 years ago

      There will never be a real competitor to YouTube, because nobody else is willing to run at a net loss for a decade before seeing their first profitable quarter, like Google did with YouTube.

      Turns out, free video hosting is expensive as fuck.

      • Obinice
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        252 years ago

        There will never be a real competitor to YouTube

        That sounds reasonable but you’re thinking way too small. Lets not forget that Tiktok is already more popular than YouTube with a very, very large chunk of younger people, for example.

        But besides that, let’s not forget that absolute giants in the business have been toppled. Look at Yahoo! as one example. Hell, even entire countries can fall within a few decades, whole empires.

        So, assuming that there will never be a decent YouTube competitor is a very limited way of looking at it. Who’s to say Google will still exist in any meaningful market leading way in 20 years?

        Sure they’re big now, but what if the entire face of the internet and how we use it and what we want fundamentally changes (say with the addition of highly advanced AI that brings changes we can’t even predict right now).

        There will absolutely one day be a service that can rival YouTube and eventually replace them, it’s the same with every product from every business, it’s the circle of life I suppose. But whether that will happen within the next 5 years, or 15, or 30, only time can tell :-D

        Never say never, though!

        • @moitoi@feddit.de
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          52 years ago

          TikTok isn’t YouTube. It’s two different method to consume videos. TikTok doesn’t replace YouTube per se. Some people split the available attention time between them and in favor of TikTok.

          It will be hard to compete on the YouTube field. But, there is multiple places for a different way to consume video with a different user experience.

          On the YouTube field, it will be hard. I don’t see creator moving with their community. The same issue has with let say Reddit, Twitter, etc.

          • @zerofk@lemm.ee
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            That’s the commenter’s point: YouTube might not be replaced, but that doesn’t mean it cannot disappear.

      • @reddig33@lemmy.world
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        92 years ago

        Im surprised Amazon hasn’t stepped into the space to advertise their own products. They already own a huge storage cloud backend.

      • livus
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        Maybe. But give decentralised federated hosting a few years. It might never be a rival but it’s possible it will become a viable alternative.

        • Chozo
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          182 years ago

          If PeerTube can fix their major discoverability issues, it can potentially pose a real threat to YouTube. But that’s the biggest thing keeping it back right now, is that it’s impossible to just find anything you want to watch.

          Unless you want to watch hour-long seminars on Linux. In which case, PeerTube’s got you covered.

          • livus
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            I think discoverability is in its infancy for the fediverse in general.

            But I’m old enough to remember when vast tracts of the internet were hard to find and everyone used directories. When that changed, everyone jumped online.

    • Blue and Orange
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      112 years ago

      It’s funny too because ads literally are a 5 second delay (at least) that you get when you dont use an adblocker!

        • stopthatgirl7OP
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          182 years ago

          Same. Give me the delay. At least I know that’s only five seconds, as opposed to a ten-second unskippable ad followed by another ad that I can skip after five seconds.

          • Rentlar
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            If I see an unskippable ad, I like to play the game “Roll the dice until Youtube gives up”. Hit the refresh key until it gives me the correct video length. Devalues Youtube’s ad product and costs YouTube more.

              • Rentlar
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                12 years ago

                That is the way to do it. Then open it on NewPipe or another 3rd party app without ads if you want to see it.

        • DontMakeMoreBabies
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          62 years ago

          At some point Hulu did that - just like three, thirty-second blocks of silent ‘shame on you for ad blocking!’ I totally preferred that to ads…

          Now I just don’t use Hulu?

          • @edgemaster72@lemmy.world
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            Ah, the good old days. Put on your show, get up and grab your snack/drink, come back just in time for the show to start, no ads the rest of the way

            And even before that when adblockers just straight up worked on Hulu no shame screens to be found

    • cobysev
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      82 years ago

      I’ve been using Nebula. It’s a subscription-based alternative with no advertising, but I get it for free because I’m subscribed to Curiosity Stream (which is basically Netflix, but for documentaries).

      The only downside to Nebula is that there aren’t a lot of content creators on it, so you don’t have the variety of videos that YouTube offers.

      • @CoderKat@lemm.ee
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        22 years ago

        The captions suck too. I subscribed to the same deal as you. I did it mostly to support the creators. But I basically never use it. The creator whose affiliate link I used to sign up? Their own captions are amazing on YouTube (human written with colour and positioning) and auto generated garbage on Nebula.

    • metaStatic
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      42 years ago

      Turns out people don’t want to compete with something that runs at a loss. and as soon as someone figures out how Google will just copy them with a massive infrastructure lead.

    • @mesamunefire@lemmy.world
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      12 years ago

      Peertube is almost there. Just needs a good server really, most of the servers are too small for the market share. Or at least fit the general public, I’m loving it ATM.