• @SCB@lemmy.world
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    They didn’t say the children were shot. They said they were wounded.

    Sniper rifles will shoot through windows, interior walls, equipment, human bodies, etc

    Again, as usual, the people to be mad at here are the literal terrorists committing literal war crimes by turning hospitals into battlegrounds

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      They didn’t say the children were shot. They said they were wounded.

      24 times? With a sniper rifle? Come on dude. Spare yourself some dignity and think for a second before you say something that makes zero sense.

      Sniper rifles will shoot through windows, interior walls, equipment, human bodies, etc

      OK. Again. 24 times??? Dude. It’s a SNIPER. You know, the one where they say “I have a clear shot, I’m taking it”. You think they’re shooting through walls that many times that (if we assume a crazy high rate of 25% hit children unintentionally because of course they weren’t aiming at kids!), that’s still 24 * 4 = 96 shots at a hospital? Why not use an assault rifle at that point? With a sniper rifle, you watch, you wait, and you make sure you have a shot before taking it. If you miss, you regroup. There’s no mention of a high value target, no mention of Hamas activity inside. If they had that intel, it would be on the news for sure.

      Again, as usual, the people to be mad at here are the literal terrorists committing literal war crimes by turning hospitals into battlegrounds

      No. Not ONCE have they actually confirmed that the target they’re after was killed. Every target is a valid target if they say so after the fact. The hospital they bombed and were so sure had a tunnel, was not true .

      Sure, Hamas is a rebel force to Israel but the sheer number of collateral damage to kill even a single Hamas soldier is completely out of this world. Even in this scenario, 1 person killed, 24 wounded by sniper fire, and they didn’t even confirm who the target was or if they got him.

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        OK. Again. 24 times??? Dude. It’s a SNIPER

        This is strong evidence that what I’m saying is exactly correct. Idk why you think it isn’t.

        In what universe does a sniper miss 24 times.

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          12 years ago

          In what universe does a sniper miss 24 times.

          Exactly! They were aiming for children!

          What kind of sniper shoots into walls etc enough times to wound that many children?

          I don’t get what you’re not understanding about this.

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            They were aiming for children!

            “The Jews are both so brutal and strong that they purposely aim at children in hospitals and so pathetically weak that none of those children died.”

            You’re really nailing the whole Goebbels angle here.

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              The Jews are both so brutal and strong that they purposely aim at children in hospitals and so pathetically weak that none of those children died.

              That’s exactly right. Shoot to maim, cripple the hospital infrastructure to prevent aid, anaesthetics, water etc. To be provided so that they suffer the most gruesome pain as doctors struggle to treat them.

              You’re really nailing the whole Goebbels angle here. We’re talking about Jews here. Those are your words, not mine.

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            Where did I imply I am happy about anything going on in this entire situation?

            I am not arguing out of team loyalty. I’m correcting people saying incorrect things.

            The IDF are not comic book villains. They’re an army fighting battles in a very populated city. What is happening is exactly what everyone said would happen.

            It is not some weird child sniping event. It’s a fucking war zone and this is a tragedy. A tragedy that could have been prevented if terrorists weren’t fighting from within a hospital.

            Do I think this could be handled better? Hell yes. Why the fuck are there still people in said hospital? Why was the first move upon approaching not to fortify somewhere nearby and invite all those people to come be protected?

            You can be an asshole commanding troops to advance without protecting civilians without being a comic book villain.

            With how intense this situation has become among people, I am of the belief that taking a bad thing and using language that magnifies it as much as possible is a bad idea. I’m arguing against doing that, and instead discussing reality.

            • @mightyfoolish@lemmy.world
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              1. They have been harassing Jerusalem and other West Bank Palestinians alot lately, and have not let up since Ramadan (nearly 9 months ago). You can literally get an IDF tour guide to go harass Palestinians at the Temple Mount. They even bring their kids.
              2. They have been targeting hospitals for decades.
              3. They are contaminating West Bank water.
              4. They turn off West Bank water whenever they feel like it.
              5. Gaza isn’t an independent entity. Anyone who tries to trade with them gets on America’s bad list.
              6. They should have excepted by now that Gaza is not part of Israel. Funny enough, it was never part of the biblical Israel or Judah.
              7. Most importantly. Gaza cannot have allies. Gaza has no options. It was all calculated. Israel has even funded Hamas before. Yes, it’s all literally comic book villainry.
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            I think few to no children were shot, but many were injured via indirect means, as I think I pretty clearly lay out.

            At the very minimum, it would be a rare occurrence for so many children to only be wounded if shot by a sniper rifle. It is unlikely, in general, that the wounds were from sniper rounds.

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              The majority of the injured were children and two are in critical condition as a result of sniper fire targeting the hospital, a Red Crescent statement said.

              So they got injured running from sniper fire? Did the sniper pull off some James Bond shit and shoot a dangling object to fall on them?

    • @Ibaudia@lemmy.world
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      22 years ago

      So one guy dead, no guarantee he was even a fighter. 24 kids injured. Some other adults, also no idea if they were fighters. How tf is that reasonable collateral for a sniper? This was clearly intentional.

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        You’re acting like someone did the math before opening fire lol

        It’s a war zone man

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      This comment makes no sense at all, dude. How in this wide world do you reckon an Israeli sniper would injure a child in a distant Gazan hospital, if not by shooting?

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        Shoots through a window. Kills a man. Bullet keeps going. Hits a respirator.

        Or glass. Or debris. Or severs a power line.

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          And all of those things can only happen after an IDF sniper fires their rifle. You’re trying to say that these were accidents, but snipers don’t accidentally aim down the scope then oopsydaisy their finger onto the trigger.

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            No, they kill the people shooting at their forces.

            Thus, it is the fault of the terrorists taking refuge in hospitals (again, a literal war crime), when collateral damage from a sniper round occurs.

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                32 years ago

                All it takes is a little bit of terrorism and war crimes from your military enemy and you too can finally shoot at a hospital totally legally

    • @stellargmite@lemmy.world
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      Thats correct , the IDF are the terrorists in this case. Reminding us what the literal and internationally recognised and ratified definition of terrorism and war crimes are . Nothing justifies this barbarity. They are the invaders, they could choose to walk away from the hospitals and the schools and the families and the innocent victims they are now choosing to murder, “wounded” as you claim isn’t a big deal, mentally torture, abuse and eventually further radicalise against them. Perhaps thats the intention , because the goal sure as hell isn’t peace. This is anti civilization and the world is watching. No one wins from this pornographic inhuman behaviour.

      • DarkGamer
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        • Y’all seem to have made up your minds about the situation with very little information to go on.
        • If there was a legitimate military target there, it’s not a war crime nor is it terrorism. It’s war.
        • Hamas is known to store their resources in and around humanitarian and civilian buildings.

        pornographic inhuman behaviour.

        Pornographic?

        • @OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world
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          If there was a legitimate military target there, it’s not a war crime nor is it terrorism. It’s war.

          Hamas set up a base inside that child’s skull and we had to take it out