Since October 7, more than 3,257 children have been reported killed, including at least 3,195 in Gaza, 33 in the West Bank, and 29 in Israel, according to the Ministries of Health in Gaza and Israel respectively. The number of children reported killed in just three weeks in Gaza is more than the number killed in armed conflict globally – across more than 20 countries – over the course of a whole year, for the last three years.

  • @Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    762 years ago

    Yet some people still claim Israel is the victim! When the truth is that Israel is a terrorist state.

    • TinyPizzaOP
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      392 years ago

      The ol’ “you shot me in the foot so I burnt down your neighborhood and killed your entire extended family” defense. Unbeatable in the court of law.

      • @Buffalox@lemmy.world
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        282 years ago

        I agree, except I think Israel is the one to both start and end this.
        I burnt down your house and killed your family, but because you shot me in the foot, I’ll burn down your neighborhood and kill your entire extended family.

        • TinyPizzaOP
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          -32 years ago

          That one doesn’t hold up as well in court though…

          • @SirToxicAvenger@lemm.ee
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            -42 years ago

            there’s a history of violence on both sides since the post-ww2 era. no one really has time or any real inclination to attend court

            • TinyPizzaOP
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              52 years ago

              Ah the ol’ “history of violence and I’ve got more killing to do, so ain’t no time for court” defense. An interesting strategy. Suppose it depends on the judge.

            • @Kashbus@lemmy.world
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              42 years ago

              Article 34 of the 1949 Geneva Convention IV states that the taking of hostages is prohibited

              I’m sorry that you are so clouded by hate

              • @cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml
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                12 years ago

                Israel is an apartheid state. Apartheid is the root cause of the entire conflict. It’s also illegal under international law. This isn’t hard.

                • @Kashbus@lemmy.world
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                  -42 years ago

                  I agree. But Israel’s apartheid actions are not just cause to enact rocket strikes, torture, suicide attacks, mass taking of hostages, mass attacks on innocents, or the beheading of children

                  It is hard, because there is no one side that has so far not committed a war crime

                  • @cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml
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                    42 years ago

                    You seem to be confused. Explaining to you the root cause of the conflict is not the same thing as justifying ongoing violence. The simple truth is that this conflict will only end when Israel decides to end the apartheid.

      • @Buffalox@lemmy.world
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        -12 years ago

        Obviously there are individual victims, but as a nation Israel is mostly responsible as those who have all the power.

        • @Guydht@lemmy.world
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          -22 years ago

          Having power = the ones responsible?

          They have no power in Gaza. They haven’t had any for the last 15 years. The ones in control of Gaza and its population id Hamas, and the ones who doesn’t take care of poor Palestinians is Hamas. And the ones who get foreign aid and uses it for rockets instead of infrastructure is Hamas.

          Power != Responsibility. Life isn’t spiderman.

          • @pavokk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            02 years ago

            Israel has all the power over Gaza. They control who or what goes in and out. The way Palestinians have been treated I’m not surprised at all that they have ended up with extremist leaders.

            • @Guydht@lemmy.world
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              -12 years ago

              They control everything in and out huh… Does that include the rockets and anti-tank ammunition Hamas has?

              Give me a break. They had a free hand running their own region for over a decade, and that’s what came out of it. Lots of military means - zero safe zones for civilians.

          • @Buffalox@lemmy.world
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            2 years ago

            They are using way superior power only to oppress, that’s why they have more responsibility.

            • @Guydht@lemmy.world
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              -22 years ago

              They use their power only when needed, which is very frequently given that their neighbors advocate for civilians giving away their lives to serve a religious ideology, meaning they’re under a constant threat on their safety.

              Yes, they’re more powerful. But no, they don’t only oppress using it. If they did, you’d have what china did to their muslim minority. The use of power is large, but not disproportionate to their level of security risk.

      • @dustyData@lemmy.world
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        102 years ago

        No one is launching the nukes, because, well…first that’s not how nuclear deterrence works, like, at all. And second, most of the people with nukes are in favor of and support Israel. You are so off base in your comprehension of global geopolitics.

    • @avater@lemmy.world
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      -82 years ago

      Well they are the victims of a terror attack by the Hamas and have a right to defend themselves also not by any means of course…this conflict has two participants who are equally involved in this conflict, your point of view seems quite one sided to me.

    • BillygotTalent
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      Of course they are also the victim. Hamas slaughtered adults and children with no remorse. Now Israel is returning the favor.

      Both sides are aggressors and victims.

      • @chepox@sopuli.xyz
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        -32 years ago

        If someone shoots your dog and then you go to their house and shoot their dog. Are you justified? Perhaps. But you are still shooting a dog. And that makes you a dog killer.

        2 wrongs do not make a right. Never will.

        • @aquinteros@lemmy.world
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          92 years ago

          yeah they aren’t shootin up the dog, they are slaughtering their entire family and burning their home, the proportions are a bit off here

        • @Duxon@feddit.de
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          02 years ago

          How many Americans were killed by Nazi Germany vs the other way around?

          Intentions and moral frameworks matter, not only the sheer numbers of casualties.