Usenet is generally better for 0-day and recent releases, but it doesn’t hold a candle to P2P when it comes to older stuff. What’s the max retention you get with the most premium plan with reputable providers these days? I think it was 13 years last time I checked. But aside from that, it’s almost always faster than P2P (unless you have a bad connection to the server from your location) and certainly more convenient in certain categories like movies and TV shows. I still use P2P for games, software, and music though.
Edit: Forgot we were talking primarily about security. Of course Usenet is better in that regard as well. The other replies explain why that’s the case.
I have the fortune to be of the “Lan-party” generation and still have a big group of people i know keep ageold games, movies, etc.
So if i need something i can usually get it from them… then it’s a matter of VPN into their network and use ftp.
But usually i don’t really look for old stuff. But thats a “me” thing. I know this will not work for everyone… also, yeah despite the retention being “only” 13 years, i do find stuff that got reupload quite usually.
I am searching for very old audiobooks and i still find most of them on usenet despite some of them being well over 20 years old now.
Speed is unfathomably fast though. I have a 1gbit/s connection at home and i can download with ~900 mbit/s through the VPN
What are the advantages of usenet when it comes to your security? Given that you’re using VPN anyway. But with usenet you also need to find a way to pay anonymously for it, otherwise what’s the point?
To add to that: The “sharing” part is what’s prohibited in German law. (Remember: when torrenting you also upload chunks of the data to others.) The pure download is kind of a grey area and won’t be prosecuted.
That’s why i feel much more safe using Usenet.
Also, the fractured nature of usenet makes it more resilient to prosecutors to actually pinpoint anything.
Just wanted to point out that downloading is no longer a grey area since an EU ruling a couple of years ago. Streaming as well as downloading from unauthorized sources is plainly illegal - you’re right about it being very unlikely to be prosecuted for it.
Haven’t touched Usenet since 2020 or so because it was cumbersome compared to torrenting, especially for software. Has it improved, or was I just on a bad indexer?
I personally ditched torrenting completly. Haven’t touched a torrent in literal years.
Usenet is the way for me. Still using via Mullvad nonetheless.
Usenet is generally better for 0-day and recent releases, but it doesn’t hold a candle to P2P when it comes to older stuff. What’s the max retention you get with the most premium plan with reputable providers these days? I think it was 13 years last time I checked. But aside from that, it’s almost always faster than P2P (unless you have a bad connection to the server from your location) and certainly more convenient in certain categories like movies and TV shows. I still use P2P for games, software, and music though.
Edit: Forgot we were talking primarily about security. Of course Usenet is better in that regard as well. The other replies explain why that’s the case.
I am with you here when it comes to older stuff
I have the fortune to be of the “Lan-party” generation and still have a big group of people i know keep ageold games, movies, etc. So if i need something i can usually get it from them… then it’s a matter of VPN into their network and use ftp.
But usually i don’t really look for old stuff. But thats a “me” thing. I know this will not work for everyone… also, yeah despite the retention being “only” 13 years, i do find stuff that got reupload quite usually.
I am searching for very old audiobooks and i still find most of them on usenet despite some of them being well over 20 years old now.
Speed is unfathomably fast though. I have a 1gbit/s connection at home and i can download with ~900 mbit/s through the VPN
What are the advantages of usenet when it comes to your security? Given that you’re using VPN anyway. But with usenet you also need to find a way to pay anonymously for it, otherwise what’s the point?
The point is that you can download stuff without uploading it at the same time.
I don’t have to share copyrighted material in order to download it. That’s the big advantage.
To add to that: The “sharing” part is what’s prohibited in German law. (Remember: when torrenting you also upload chunks of the data to others.) The pure download is kind of a grey area and won’t be prosecuted.
Exactly - should’ve mentioned that.
That’s why i feel much more safe using Usenet. Also, the fractured nature of usenet makes it more resilient to prosecutors to actually pinpoint anything.
Just wanted to point out that downloading is no longer a grey area since an EU ruling a couple of years ago. Streaming as well as downloading from unauthorized sources is plainly illegal - you’re right about it being very unlikely to be prosecuted for it.
Haven’t touched Usenet since 2020 or so because it was cumbersome compared to torrenting, especially for software. Has it improved, or was I just on a bad indexer?
Didn’t try it for software, only Movies, Shows, Games, Audiobooks
I am on houseofusenet and the “should not be named” partner indexer that allows API access for *arr Software. Also i have drunkenslug
I rarely search for something manually, only games as there is no “gamearr” or something like that.