• Nils
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    719 days ago

    Is this really your experience with +16 years old? If so, you should get your province to invest more in education.

    They(16yo) can drive, they can enlist.

    In most provinces, they are choosing their career, trade, university, and with fresh knowledge of history and geopolitics they get from schools.

    And there is no magical switch that flips when you turn 18. The sooner they start thinking about their future, the better.

    Many countries already allowed 16 years old people to vote, for more than 20 years, and they did not become a misogynist hell-hole.

    • @Showroom7561@lemmy.ca
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      619 days ago

      Is this really your experience with +16 years old? If so, you should get your province to invest more in education.

      That’s the problem, though. Young males voters are swaying heavily to right-wing parties, and it’s thought that this is because of the online influence of bad actors.

      Of course, any age can be manipulated, but far fewer are being swayed by these “influencers” as age increases.

      And a lack of education ties in with voting Conservative, so there’s no incentive for the Cons to change this. They benefit from young, naive, undereducated voters.

      They(16yo) can drive, they can enlist.

      I’m against that, too. Young drivers are notoriously bad at driving, and have poor judgment on the road.

      In most provinces, they are choosing their career, trade, university, and with fresh knowledge of history and geopolitics they get from schools.

      Yes, of course. It’s a transition age.

      Many countries already allowed 16 years old people to vote, for more than 20 years, and they did not become a misogynist hell-hole.

      Other countries may not (at least, not now) have a problem with social media influencing their young voters. So, it may “work” for them, but not for North Americans.

      I’m not trying to throw this age group under the bus. It’s THEIR future that we vote for, and they really should be playing a role in shaping that future.

      But I’d want them to be making an informed vote, without the voice of right-wing extremists in their heads. At this present time, I don’t think that could happen, because these influencers run unchecked, and it DOES impact how our youth think and act.

      • Nils
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        219 days ago

        Young males voters are swaying…

        No rights for a whole group because you do not agree with the political leaning of ~1/4 of them (poor young folks that vote centre and left). Add to this that younger men have a lower turnout voting, than any other age group.

        A while we are at it

        Young drivers are notoriously bad at driving,

        With this logic, I imagine you also want to remove the license from people +50yo. Maybe their voter card as well.
        Given their turnout and right-wing tendencies. Also, how bad they drive, given the number of accidents.

        Hey, I all for a walkable city, possibly you are right with this license takeover.

        but not for North Americans

        Oh, yes, we are different because we live on this arbitrary piece of land.
        Other countries have internet (better than here) and right-wing pundits as well.

        I don’t think irrational fear of what others might do should be the gatekeeper of their rights.

        I also do not agree with them paying taxes with no representation.

        It’s THEIR future that we vote for

        Given that you want to reduce the rights of a group that are active members of the society, can join the workforce and pay taxes, and studied for most of their lives. Just because you do not agree with what a fraction might do. I don’t think you have their best interest in mind.

    • @MacroCyclo@lemmy.ca
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      419 days ago

      Also, setting the age to 16 pretty much means the average person won’t vote until 18 based on election timing. If government is elected when you’re 17, you might not vote until you are 21.

      • Nils
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        119 days ago

        Some countries allow you to vote in primaries if you will be at voting age by the time of the main elections. It also helps when they have consistent voting days, and alternate elections every 2 years (federal/province for example).

        If the provinces and cities also lower the voting age, they will be able to vote much sooner than 18/21.