• @el_muerte@lemm.ee
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    224 days ago

    This is the same energy that got Cheeto Benito elected over the border. Thanks to bullshit like yours, dipshits somehow came to the conclusion that Harris would be worse for Palestine than Trump, and look where that got them.

    Carney might not be taking a firm stance against Israel, but the other viable candidate straight up licks their boots and will be worse for Canada in every other way.

    • @Dr_Vindaloo@lemmy.ml
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      -214 days ago

      So, your answer to preventing the rise of fascism in Canada is to do exactly what the Democrats did in the US. How did that work out for them? If you actually want to see the Conservatives lose, you should demand the Liberals actually do better instead of compromising on something as fundamental as whether or not to support a Holocaust. That’s what you are doing right now, calling people out for saying “I will not vote for either of the Holocaust parties.” You may personally be willing to sacrifice a few hundred thousand brown people on the other side of the planet for the sake of slightly better domestic policies, but many will not cross that line. Trying to sway them with bullshit “lesser of two evils” nonsense will not work.

      Obviously, things in Canada are different - we don’t have nearly as much of a role to play as the US does in genocide, and the population is also less right wing overall. But that just makes it even weirder that you’d respond so negatively to the simple true statement that “Carney supports genocide” - it is objectively true and stating it isn’t even realistically going to change anything. The more I interact with libs the more it feels like they don’t even believe their own “lesser of 2 evils” stance, they just genuinely don’t care about murder supported by their money as long as it happens far enough away.

      • @el_muerte@lemm.ee
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        144 days ago

        Bruh. We all saw the outcome of statements like yours in America. A massive portion of the pro-Palestine vote chose Donald because they were hammered over and over with “Kamala supports genocide” with no regard for Trump’s position. Incredibly fucking ironic that you’re pretending my position is going to bring fascism to Canada when rhetoric like yours is what will get PP elected by driving voters away from Carney. It’s incredibly disingenuous to pretend statements like “Carney supports genocide” in the absence of any other context - such as comparing that stance to the other party leaders - is even slightly innocuous.

        So please, if you aren’t just a shitty troll trying to get PP elected by pretending to be a progressive concerned about Israel’s genocide, spend some time in self reflection and consider why so many Palestine supporters in the States were persuaded to vote against Kamala.

        • @Dr_Vindaloo@lemmy.ml
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          -14 days ago

          Who told you that pro-Palestine people voted for Trump? Choosing not to vote for Harris is not the same as voting against her.

          And I don’t need to compare Carney to other party leaders because we all know that Polievre is pro-genocide - it goes without saying. I have no hope of ever convincing conservatives - they are too far gone. Liberals are supposedly the “good side” which is why their hypocrisy needs to be called out.

          To make it clear again: I do NOT support the cons and implying I do is a strawman.

      • Avid Amoeba
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        44 days ago

        “Carney supports genocide” is as true a statement as “[Insert name here that criticizes Israel] supports Hamas” and it’s as difficult to accept.

      • acargitz
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        24 days ago

        ‘An election is no time to discuss serious issues’