It’s seriously getting old at this point. I’ve noticed there’s been an uptick in hostility towards lemmy.ml over the past year. I can only assume it’s related to the reddit migration. Unfortunately I only forsee it getting worse as more people migrate over.
At a certain point it becomes harassment and should be moderated accordingly. Something that we’re going to need to do as we grow in order to be a functional social spaces that harassment needs to be something you get banned for because a lot of the negative experience people have on the corporate crap is because of widespread normalized harassment. If an instance isn’t so bad it gets defederated users probably shouldn’t be given shit for merely using it
There’s a difference between support and pointing out blatant US propaganda. Like I said above, many people across the fediverse don’t get the nuance of being critical of US narratives does not equal supporting the regimes that are on the recieving end of that propaganda. If you really spent any amount of time on .ml you’d see there is plenty of criticism of Russia/China, just not to the extent where everyone unquestioningly takes any criticism by US sources at face value.
Did you open the link at all? That user literally just said that Drump would be the dumbest president ever, even dumber than NK dictators and caught a 14 day ban from /c/memes for it. That is not ban worthy whatsoever, but on .ml it is for the sole reason of it speaks ill of NK.
I got permabanned from politics on shitjustworks for calling out the mod for being a hypocrite, so 14 days ain’t so bad in comparison. Gonna go see what rule 1 over there is tho.
Look at the preceding conversation, instead of cherry picking a comment maybe 🤷♂️ dude was already handing out temp bans in the thread for anyone that disagreed with him stating they’re trolls, then he’s the one trolling. Got called out, couldn’t handle it.
So, the no matter what instance thing isn’t really true. Moderation is different per instance, mods can remove comments locally.
Account migration is planned, but not there yet.
The reason it doesn’t matter is because they all interoperate, unless one of them is a problem and needs to be cut off. Yours isn’t the worse but some people do have a negative opinion of it. If anyone decides to de-federate you won’t be able to see posts from there but this probably doesn’t matter a whole lot unless the instance you are on is a total pariah
Yeah it doesn’t matter - don’t listen to drama fiends. .ml is fine. Lots of people decry it as being a tankie instance. The whole point of federation is you aren’t limited to the content on your instance - just by which instances yours is federated with.
If people or your instance bother you, make another account. Otherwise, just ignore the haters
I’ve been on .ml for half a year and it’s a good one. Not many defederations, so I can pick what instances i want to see and not have some faceless admin pick for me.
If you really struggle with certain users who are passionate about certain topics, just block them. This is true for any instance. Don’t forget to block me to. Thanks.
lemmy.ml is the instance run by the lemmy developers, who are tankies. Tankies are people who support authoritarian regeims such as the soviet union, or north korea.
As such, they sometimes remove anti-china or pro-ukraine posts/comments.
You can browse by “local” and “all” with the tab at the top of the page. Local is posts from just your instance, all is everything not defederated with your instance.
That’s why I suggest people go to a instance with as few deferations as possible. You can block instances, communities, and users. You know what you want to see. You don’t need a admin to tell you what you want to see.
I’m glad instances with tons of defederations exist for those who want that, but that’s not for me.
just a heads up, the instance you’re on is pretty controversial.
very good way to put it
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people peer pressuring over instances can be disregarded, they’re almost always shit-stirring
It’s seriously getting old at this point. I’ve noticed there’s been an uptick in hostility towards lemmy.ml over the past year. I can only assume it’s related to the reddit migration. Unfortunately I only forsee it getting worse as more people migrate over.
At a certain point it becomes harassment and should be moderated accordingly. Something that we’re going to need to do as we grow in order to be a functional social spaces that harassment needs to be something you get banned for because a lot of the negative experience people have on the corporate crap is because of widespread normalized harassment. If an instance isn’t so bad it gets defederated users probably shouldn’t be given shit for merely using it
The .world admins allow this to continue, which I see as tacit endorsement for it.
Have you considered that people just generally don’t like supporting the authoritarianism that plagues China, Russia and NK
It’s the authoritarian part of being a Tankie that a lot of us hate
There’s a difference between support and pointing out blatant US propaganda. Like I said above, many people across the fediverse don’t get the nuance of being critical of US narratives does not equal supporting the regimes that are on the recieving end of that propaganda. If you really spent any amount of time on .ml you’d see there is plenty of criticism of Russia/China, just not to the extent where everyone unquestioningly takes any criticism by US sources at face value.
Did you open the link at all? That user literally just said that Drump would be the dumbest president ever, even dumber than NK dictators and caught a 14 day ban from /c/memes for it. That is not ban worthy whatsoever, but on .ml it is for the sole reason of it speaks ill of NK.
There’s plenty more on !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works but ironically .ml blocks you from seeing it, so you’ll need to use this roundabout link instead http://lemmy.world/c/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
Some instances just have higher standards than you and don’t tolerate ableist insults
Lol yea calling Drump and dictators dumb is definitely abelist/s LMAO
I got permabanned from politics on shitjustworks for calling out the mod for being a hypocrite, so 14 days ain’t so bad in comparison. Gonna go see what rule 1 over there is tho.
LPT: Maybe don’t start comments with “Go fuck yourself”, people might take you more seriously or be more receptive.
🤷
Look at the preceding conversation, instead of cherry picking a comment maybe 🤷♂️ dude was already handing out temp bans in the thread for anyone that disagreed with him stating they’re trolls, then he’s the one trolling. Got called out, couldn’t handle it.
Feudposting is cringe
So, the no matter what instance thing isn’t really true. Moderation is different per instance, mods can remove comments locally. Account migration is planned, but not there yet.
The reason it doesn’t matter is because they all interoperate, unless one of them is a problem and needs to be cut off. Yours isn’t the worse but some people do have a negative opinion of it. If anyone decides to de-federate you won’t be able to see posts from there but this probably doesn’t matter a whole lot unless the instance you are on is a total pariah
Yeah it doesn’t matter - don’t listen to drama fiends. .ml is fine. Lots of people decry it as being a tankie instance. The whole point of federation is you aren’t limited to the content on your instance - just by which instances yours is federated with.
If people or your instance bother you, make another account. Otherwise, just ignore the haters
You have to make a new one.
I’ve been on .ml for half a year and it’s a good one. Not many defederations, so I can pick what instances i want to see and not have some faceless admin pick for me.
If you really struggle with certain users who are passionate about certain topics, just block them. This is true for any instance. Don’t forget to block me to. Thanks.
Check out !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works or actually because you’re on .ml, they block that comm instance wide
So you’ll need to see it through another instance, like so lemmy.world/c/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
You get banned for dissent against Russia or China or even NK on .ml comms
Is lemm.ee chill or should I be making a new account?
Oh yeah, lemm.ee is great.
Controversial? How come? I’m new to the Fediverse so I’d love to learn as much as I can. 🙂
I explained a bit here: https://lemm.ee/post/58018253/18825295
But I’ll go into more detail : )
lemmy.ml is the instance run by the lemmy developers, who are tankies. Tankies are people who support authoritarian regeims such as the soviet union, or north korea.
As such, they sometimes remove anti-china or pro-ukraine posts/comments.
They also sometimes bridgade threads.
As an example, check !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
I gotcha. Thanks so much for the explanation!
Why?
It has some censorship problems, the devs (who run the instance) are tankies, and pro-russia/china
Alright where next? I’m not invested in this space
lemm.ee, the instance you are on, is fine. In fact, the admins are great people.
I’m so sorry but you have to spell this out to me
What is the difference between lemmy and lem.ee? And I suppose I should ask “where am I?”
Is this like people individually hosting their own reddits?
So, lemm.ee is a lemmy instance, its like its own mini-reddit. lemmy.world is another instance. You can follow communities accross instances though.
You can browse by “local” and “all” with the tab at the top of the page. Local is posts from just your instance, all is everything not defederated with your instance.
That’s why I suggest people go to a instance with as few deferations as possible. You can block instances, communities, and users. You know what you want to see. You don’t need a admin to tell you what you want to see.
I’m glad instances with tons of defederations exist for those who want that, but that’s not for me.
You can read this, hopefully it will help: https://lemm.ee/post/54947321/18643464