• Verdant Banana@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    fuck this

    ultimately people that are not able to pay will have travel restricted further than high cost of owning a vehicle does and trapped citizens will not equal democracy when only the privileged get to travel

    • Jake Farm@sopuli.xyz
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      7 months ago

      In New York only the wealthy use cars anyway. They have very robust public transit.

    • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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      7 months ago

      Of the many things that can be publicly subsidised and made available to the public at large, car travel to one of the densest areas of the country might not be one of the most worthy.

    • ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net
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      7 months ago

      comes to a community called “fuck cars”

      My dude, you just defended steak in a vegan spot

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      7 months ago

      There are discounts and tax credits for those with low income who live in the area, and exemptions for people with medical conditions that prevent them from using public transit source.

      Street parking in NYC is $9 an hour, and long term parking garages typically charge like $400 per month. If you’re driving in NYC the $9 per day congestion pricing isn’t going to be the thing that makes it unaffordable.

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        7 months ago

        Another commenter shared Tokyo, and I can explain what they did:

        1. Tokyo as a whole made it extremely difficult to own cars. To own one, you need to prove to the government that you have a dedicated parking space. There’s also a high tax on it and on insurance premiums. My Japanese friend told me how his family used to car share with the entire neighborhood. Uncertain if this is a Tokyo thing.

        2. Public transportation is ridiculous. You are always about a 10 minute walk to a subway or bus.

        3. Highways are underground, which encourages cars to get out of the street level.