• Flying Squid
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    438 months ago

    He endorsed her specifically so that Trump would say that in the debate. And he did.

        • @Murvel@lemm.ee
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          -138 months ago

          But you do since you just guess. I quote known sources, and you pull shit out your ass.

          • Flying Squid
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            138 months ago

            Please explain why Putin would endorse the person who says that Ukraine should win the war over the person who won’t say that.

            • @Murvel@lemm.ee
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              -118 months ago

              I don’t need to explain anything. Again, I’m just citing facts, and you’re guessing. But honestly, how much do you think your armchair analytics are really worth? Or anyone’s for that matter?

              • Flying Squid
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                88 months ago

                I just cited facts too.

                Harris wants Russia out of Ukraine.

                Trump refuses to say what he wants Russia to do.

                Why would Putin sincerely endorse Harris? I think you know the answer is that he wouldn’t.

                • @Murvel@lemm.ee
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                  -118 months ago

                  Because you, quote ‘don’t live under a rock’, was that the citation you consider a fact?

                  • Flying Squid
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                    98 months ago

                    Again:

                    Harris says Ukraine should win.

                    Trump will not say who should win.

                    This happened last night. I heard it with my own ears.

                    So, again, why would Putin support the person who wants him to lose the war? Because, again, I think you know the answer.

              • @YeetPics@mander.xyz
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                28 months ago

                I don’t need to explain anything.

                Don’t be coy; you simply cannot.

                You exist in bad faith, this goes so far beyond debate at this point lmao

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        Here’s a guy who believes things that come out of Putin’s mouth, over his own eyes and his own government.

        Remind me, which side just got busted for being literally paid by Russia to post pro-russian propaganda about the election and Ukraine? Wasn’t that conservatives? If Putin wants Kamala, why is Russia paying American conservative influencers millions of dollars to sway voters away from her?

        • @Murvel@lemm.ee
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          -188 months ago

          Lmao I don’t really give a damn. I just quoted Putins’ own words, make that what you will and the fact is he supports Harris apparently.

          • @FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.world
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            108 months ago

            I know you quoted Putin’s own words, that was my whole point lol. He said those words in response to the US GOVERNMENT saying that he is paying conservative influencers to influence the US election.

            So, which source do you believe, Putin, or the US government? Go on

            • @Murvel@lemm.ee
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              -78 months ago

              I dont really trust, either to be honest. What has the US government said on the matter?

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                Here’s the official statement

                The US business that was implicated has been named as Tenet Media, which employs Tim Pool and Benny Johnson, noted Trump supporters. Each of whom was being paid $100s of thousands of dollars by Tenet, who was in turn being paid directly by Russia. Tenet has since shut down and the creators are lawyering up.

                Here’s an article from BBC giving more details about who was involved, with quotes from the conservative influencers that took the money, and from the DOJ. I will put some quotes below but I strongly suggest you read the whole thing because it does seem like you personally have fallen victim to this Russian propaganda.

                “While the views expressed in the videos are not uniform, the subject matter and content of the videos are often consistent with the Government of Russia’s interest in amplifying U.S. domestic divisions in order to weaken U.S. opposition to core Government of Russia interests, such as its ongoing war in Ukraine,”

                The platform’s two founders “admitted to each other in their private communications that their ‘investors’ were, in truth and in fact, the ‘Russians’”, the indictment says

                Editing to add the actual indictment for you, since we care a lot about sources in this thread! https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1366266/dl

                • @Murvel@lemm.ee
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                  -88 months ago

                  No, I mean that the US government claims Putin support of Harris is false or a charade.

          • @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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            78 months ago

            If you’re just going to quote people and accept it as fact, I have the metal scrapping rights for the Eiffel tower for sale and I’m willing to do so for cheap.

                • @Murvel@lemm.ee
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                  No, ffs, I was just citing official sources, that’s the goddamn opposite

                  • @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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                    28 months ago

                    Well, officially, Putin supports Harris, but who knows with that deranged man.

                    So first of all, that is “armchair conjecture”.

                    Second of all, you’ve already admitted just because Putin says it doesn’t mean it’s true.

                    Third of all, what is your reaction to Putin’s support? Sounds like “be careful of Harris, Putin supports her.” Do you think Putin is an idiot? He knows that’s how people will react.

                    Not supporting someone just because Putin said to is just as stupid as supporting someone just because Putin said to. Either way you’re letting Putin make your decisions instead of thinking for yourself.

          • arefx
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            58 months ago

            That’s the thing you can’t trust putins own words lmao