It sounds way less offensive to those who decry the original terminology’s problematic roots but still keeps its meaning intact.

  • @clickyello@lemmy.world
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    y’all I understand there are larger issues in the world but please let’s not pretend that POC working in tech feel awesome about typing master/slave in the terminal, it’s outdated and should be changed.

    • @lud@lemm.ee
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      But POC are not the only ones that have been enslaved.

      Pretty much all races and people have been enslaved in history.

      Slave does not equal North American POC slave and the term in this context has absolutely nothing to do with them. The only time it refers specifically to them is when discussing North American history (and maybe current history due to the fact that USA still enslaves people in prison)

      One might argue that the term is outdated because slaves are less common these days, but it has nothing to do with POC (or human slaves at all). But I won’t argue that because the term is very easy to understand and thus not outdated.

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      I’m white and I don’t feel comfortable saying it/typing it. It’s antiquated and weird.

    • It’s a weird phrase to begin with.

      In law, the phrase “master / servant” has been around forever. It’s the foundation of the law of agency.

      Some tech bro picked slave instead of servant.

      • @lud@lemm.ee
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        No, that’s completely dependent on what you are referring too. I have never heard anyone ever referring to a server as “master” or a client as a “slave”. The slave/master terminology is often used for storage. I.E. Master drive and slave drive.

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          Nowadays its more ofte used for server hierarchies/functionality. Or well, a lot of software is changing now. Mariadb use Source and replica.

        • @Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
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          You are correct I swapped client with other such as worker, child, and helper,

          Master–slave (technology)

          In 2018, after a heated debate, developers of Python replaced the term. Python switched to main, parent, and server; and worker, child, and helper, depending on context.

          The Linux kernel adopted a similar policy to use more specific terms in new code and documentation.

          My problem with the term “slave” is that it does not indicate there is a delegation of work going, on but rather that the subdevice is somehow fully “owned” by the master device. Whereas in reality the master is more like a manager telling a worker what to do.

          • @lud@lemm.ee
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            In some cases the sub device is pretty much owned by the “master” device.

            I’m mostly thinking of IDE since that’s the only place I ever hear anyone use master/slave except GIT where master is used.

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        19 months ago

        that’s because the server is rarely the master, the clients do work, and the server just exchanges the work of the clients, it’s a lot more akin to a telephone exchange as opposed to a master/slave architecture.

    • KillingTimeItself
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      -29 months ago

      are you a person of color yourself? Or are you white like the statistical majority of us?

      Shitposting aside, i feel like if you feel weird typing it out, you probably care too much about most things in life, though then again, i’m pretty fucking autistic so.