I do love them, but it’d be hard for them to not get real visually noisy. Also they’d need to be moddable (ex: racists using monkey emojis to harass). Also would they be anonymous the way vote counts are? I think they’re a really fun feature but need careful thought before UI incorporation. (ooh, maybe they’d make sense to keep pretty small and have in a similar position to where Reddit puts comment gilding?)

Just a couple! I’m still figuring out how it’ll make sense to use both.

Was your blog in English, though?

If you take Internet access…

…and cross reference against English speakers…

…then I think that’s enough explanation, no?

Does it need to be tackled? I mean, I think it’s a good thing about the reddit ecosystem that you have multiple communities dedicated to the same topic but which have different mod policies, say. To the extent that it can devolve into namesquatting, we can always repo the name later.

Maybe we should ask that there be a point of clarification in the sidebar?

Hey, if you’re getting death threats in PMs please reach out directly to admins. That is not something we tolerate. I am not sure what options like IP bans exist or will exist. We don’t want anybody to be harassed.

So the protocol is way, way different and massively out of scope to actually reimplement, so it would never make sense to have chugging along within the Lemmy backend server itself.

However, embedding Matrix rooms in webpages is something the Matrix devs want to make more straightforward (Gitter does this nicely and they’re shooting to subsume all of its functionality) so it’s not too hard to imagine some kind of integration with a. a separate Matrix server that gives permissions to b. a Matrix bot to manage creation of new rooms c. UI extensions to show this alongside communities.

However!

Lemmy is deceptively shiny and awesome, but there’s still a lot of way more high-priority stuff that needs doing before this kind of huge feature extension is even discussed seriously, so the devs need to focus on that kind of thing.

Once the Element devs get embedded rooms a bit further down the road, this seems like a really doable project for a motivated Lemmy user to try adding on, though!

Your own server is the one through which you interact with all others. You just talk to it, and then it talks to the other servers.

Yup, the domain name is part of what defines your identity. I would expect that eventually we’ll have more interface options to ensure it’s not too confusing who’s who (especially since there’s your real username and then you can also set a display name) but it’s one of those things that isn’t really a problem until it’s a problem.

Deletions in the fediverse have been a big deal in past. The tl;dr is that your “home” server would send out a “hey delete this” notification to all the other servers. By default they will of course do that, but you can see that it’s conceivable that someone could make a malicious version of server software that wouldn’t.

I am not a dev on the project so I am happy to pitch in answering Qs. :)

Small nit: it’s not like pulling data from each server separately because you can have one user account on one server and vote / comment / post in communities on all the servers using that one same identity.

… I dunno, keep pouring and I’ll say when

One thing that’s important to me is making the fediverse less elitist. So that’s maybe a divergence of views, though I can’t speak to whether I’m whatever “kind of person” you’re thinking of.

Personally, I don’t really want it to be changed; I like that there’s somewhere generic that can serve as a catch-all bin for Fediverse content. However, I think it’s cool that someone (possibly even you??? I don’t have it in a tab) was working on spinning off something to focus on organizing to increase Fediverse adoption. I intend to join such spinoffs as well :)

I like the fediverse for its nichey communities. It lets content be easily spread across the network for viral serendipity, but also lets people feel like they’re just hanging out with a smaller community where you get to know each other. Within that community, the community has full control and autonomy, which is why it’s better than e.g. the evils of Facebook Groups for what I’m describing. Having a sort of collective/cooperative/socially negotiated service provision creates the nice foundation for the right attitudes for a community to have (I was heavily influenced by https://runyourown.social/ ). I like that no one is making money off my attention so no one is incentivized to manipulate me.

I don’t care as much about censorship resistance, escaping Big Mod, libreness of software (except through how that’s made it something accessible and shaped-by-the-community that a sysadminny type person can spin up without a ton of resources)…

Linking is super important! My sense here is also that we should advocate pulling from the picture reddit keeps instead of keeping a copy uploaded here? Not sure how that’ll display and such, but that way OP can at least maintain ability to delete without having to know about Lemmy.

Does this user know you’re reposting their art? That this will not automatically be taken down if they delete the copy on Reddit?

gay people deserve human rights

it’s really easy to move a mastodon instance. I know because I did it. it should eventually be as easy to move a lemmy instance. each admin that has the ability to move their instance if they want to represents a meaningful point of decentralization. “The underlying problem” sounds so dramatic.

It’s never a “fire”, it’s always a “thermal event”

Hi. I’m speaking as an admin on the site.

https://join.lemmy.ml/docs/en/code_of_conduct.html

Please don’t insult other people for this kind of thing. If you don’t think the view expressed is worthwhile, downvote and move on.

sometimes you just don’t want to get rained on, you know?

It is planned to make the filter work better with other languages when there’s proper language support. If it can be made to work with more context sensitivity, the devs are open to that – but it’s played a really important role in keeping Lemmy a friendly place just because of the kind of people it’s scared off, so I wouldn’t expect it to be made way more permissive in some way that would be attractive to the grosser parts of the internet.

So as @PP44 is saying, it’s open source. The devs work to make sure that anyone can set it up straightforwardly to run with their own modifications, not just the main version – and that means modifying the slur filter is also supposed to be straightforward, even though it’s not encouraged. There isn’t actual moderation on the whole platform per se, since two instances can federate even if one has no slur filter. There are lots of “points” to federated stuff, though, so the existence of a slur filter works well to help keep Lemmy from attracting the cesspool-types while still enjoying those other benefits.

No bots on any community on this, the main instance. It’s part of the vision for lemmy for people to not have the bot heavy experience of Reddit. However, this instance can federate with other instances that do have bots so people like you and I who do want that content can subscribe to communities hosted there.

I think mirroring comments is not a good idea because if someone puts a lot of effort into writing a comment, that content needs to still be within their control… and if someone is trying to delete stuff to retain privacy or something, it’s always pretty sketchy to keep up something that isn’t newsworthy or from a public figure.

so, admin hat on for a minute, bot posting is not allowed on the main instance, BUT… I personally think this kind of thing would be great in some form on another instance. some caveats, again coming from my personal views:

• link posts only to not steal written content? it sucks to miss some of the stuff where the best part is answers in the comments, but that also would need people to go back to reddit to consume, and there are a decent number of people here who have left reddit intentionally and would probably get annoyed.
• limiting the rate would be key; I believe there were some automated news stories being posted that had to rate limit to not drown everything else on the network out. this will not be a thing forever, just while we’re still smaller.
• I’m not sure how you’d choose what subreddits to propagate over. if you end up building something and being selective about it, please consider making the code and tooling available so someone else can choose a different set

I have no idea what the mod story should be except that it is relatively less important now, while the site is still not huge, but will become extremely important once we get to the point where large communities are their own fiefdoms and whatever other nonsense is going on over there on Reddit.

yup, top 5 or so by some metric and then a link to the full list.

We lived across the country from one side, and there were some other factors, but if we speak of the general case…

I think this has a lot to do with how women have historically been expected to manage the social life of the family, but now there are more expectations about “you’re responsible for planning to see your side of the family” even though men perhaps don’t acquire those skills or prioritize that work.

Also I think it varies by culture whether a woman is expected to involve her mother-in-law vs. her own mother a lot when she herself has a child. Child-rearing structures a lot of the internal life of a family, and who gets pulled in to assist matters a lot. My mother always alluded approvingly to the Korean practice of a woman moving back in with her mom around the time of birth where the new grandmother would assume the household work that the new mom couldn’t do Because Birth. On the one hand, it seems ludicrous that the man can’t step up even temporarily for that stuff (and comes to be fed! by the wife’s mother!!), but makes more sense once you realize how much knowledge of how to deal with an infant has to be passed on informally to a new parent.

This is really interesting. Particularly:

Third, and related to this, it may be that misidentifications of working-class identity reflect the role of extended family histories in shaping people’s class identities. Most lay people, and indeed sociologists of class, tend to assume that people’s self-understanding is strongly shaped by personally experienced events, especially during their upbringing (Bourdieu, 1984; Goldthorpe, 1980). They also assume that the dispositions inculcated via primary socialisation are dependent on the economic, cultural and social resources (or capitals) that flow from parents’ class destination. This ‘two-generation view of the world’ dominates work on class identity and indeed the wider field of social stratification (Mare, 2011).

Yet a strand of work in social psychology pioneered by Robyn Fivush (Fivush et al., 2008; Merrill and Fivush, 2016) challenges this idea that self-understanding is tied to autobiographical memory. This work emphasises a more ‘temporally extended self’ that is still guided by parents but is informed by stories of their lives before they had children, of their own childhoods and those of their extended families. These kinds of family stories provide a historical context for children, informing them of how they fit into a ‘larger life framework’ and family identity constructed across historical time. In fact, such family reminiscing leads to what they call an ‘intergenerational self’ anchored ‘as much by one’s place in a familial history as a personal past’ (Fivush et al., 2008: 131). In this way, supposed misidentifications of class may in fact reflect perfectly accurate readings of one’s class history, just premised on multigenerational family histories.

This has always felt like why my own class background feels pretty tangled up, and in the opposite way. My mother is very educated and her family was solidly in the middle class. However, when I was growing up, my dad was a construction worker who became disabled, my mom homeschooled me and my sibling, and my “personally experienced events” were shaped by (varyingly severe) poverty. If you told the story of “how hard was it for your mother and father to make sure you could get to the doctor when you were a kid?” you would get a pretty hard-scrabble narrative. However, my mother educated us like little princelings, and we were taught all the middle-class social graces that enable getting around with people of that set. Compare me to someone else of similar family income who didn’t have those class advantages and you see a very uneven playing field.

That isn’t to say that it isn’t myth-making when people lean on “well my grandfather didn’t have money”, but class is really thick and complicated and more than a year’s tax returns.

the article :) I only see a couple of people from kolektiva ever RTed onto my timeline so can’t speak to that yet

I was ready for it to be bad and it wasn’t

HI! I wrote a comment in answer that got long enough that I put it on my site https://maya.land/fragments/2021-01-26-christine-lemmy/ :)

mysteries!

I’m now gonna go to sleep pondering the division of “Europe” and its political constitution

honestly the more I think about it the more referring to “the americas” just feels… rude? as if the Inuit and Guarani people and everybody in between get lumped into a bucket just because that was what seemed convenient to some dead Europeans from five hundred years back

should the adjective also be applied to the continents? sure absolutely. but I sort of think it’s in a linguistic free for all since the name really doesn’t connect to something of deep significance. anybody on any of these continents has about the same claim to it in my book.

basically my take is “colonizer names are giant stupid graffiti on what was here before, let’s not pretend they’re sacred”

I see people getting het up about this every now and then, but I think it’s a manufactured concern. This isn’t, like, who gets to call themselves real Macedonia, it isn’t a piece of real heritage or tradition, it’s a single Italian guy’s name that got slapped on nearly an entire hemisphere. “The Americas” were never a coherent thing before colonialism made them that as the Other. Respecting actual regional and cultural identity is important, and Amerigo Vespucci and his adjectival formation is just… not relevant to that actual concern.

I find it interesting that IME it’s Europeans who mostly seem to bring up the name overlap as a problem? Which I guess is from the impression you get of names and borders when your national names and borders weren’t, like, drawn on maps in straight lines by the East India Trading Co.

The best part of the overlap though is that if you are thinking of ⚽ and “America”, that’s 🇲🇽 Mexico 🇲🇽 all the way baby!! As it should be

I will not be arguing in the comments but you are all free to if that floats your boat

depends; is it in your subscribed feed? shouldn’t be in that or the local feed. lots of people had “all” as their default view which would show it.

Intended hitpiece from people trying to get an alternate protocol to stick (via the CC0 attribution at the bottom).

I haven’t read it in detail but even skimming through it’s making some pretty questionable claims. “well, you have to join a public room, so it’s not really public”, and “they said their GDPR tools were ‘hacky’ which means they must not be good enough” and “a system administrator could configure STUN/TURN in such a way that IP metadata gets sent to Google”

I’d be very willing to believe Matrix had fucked some stuff up, leaked data, etc. but I don’t see enough to buy the accusations of bad faith.

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