Yeah, I seem to remember a lot of cruise missiles hitting apartments and schools.

Not to mention eradicating close to the entirety of the military-aged male population in Donetsk and Luhansk by forced conscription.

I might grant Putin though that he’s only doing a cultural genocide, that is, the attacks on civilian infrastructure have the actual military goal of breaking resistance – which is known to generally not work, hence why it’s a war crime. He’s perfectly fine with people staying alive as long as they bend the knee and become Russian.

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Exactly this. Hamas forces are shit for using hospitals and schools as shields, I’ll grant that. But the IDF is a proper first-world military force, and should act the part. Dislodging an occupying force from a command center or strongpoint that also happens to be full of civilians shouldn’t involve bombing the place flat with civilians inside, especially when it’s clearly marked as a noncombatant area (like a hospital or a school). The US Air Force did that, with camera and audio footage that showed the crew knew they weren’t in the right, in Afghanistan (the Kunduz hospital airstrike, 2015), and were roundly vilified for it - why should we not hold Israel to the same standard?

Do you realize that a “regular army” would level the place entirely with airstrikes and artillery? --Because that’s what would be most expedient and cost the fewest Israeli lives and least money overall.

Hamas should stop hiding in refugee camps too…

Extend the logic, come on.

It is well known hamas hides among civilians. That is the main reason there is so much civilian collateral damage. Hamas themselves said it is their strategy ffs.

They are both. How is that hard to understand? It is a decentralized organization that fits both roles depending on the faction.

You might as well have said “this” or “le bacon”

I wasn’t banned. My comment was deleted because I wasn’t very civil. Lots of f-bombs and stuff.

I think it’s alright to try to encourage a more civil discussion where we can argue by challenging each other’s arguments without using profanity.

Ok well I might have gotten confused over what was signed over which year.

What I was basically trying to say is there was an agreement at some point over the land borders. I might have been the original ones or some other ones later. In any case Israel needs to revert what they’ve done and give the land back until they go back to that border that was agreed upon.

Although, I doubt that even that will bring peace to the region after what they’ve done.

Sometimes u just can’t untie civilians and fighters,

Then you figure out another way of getting to your enemy. There are rules to War.

You don’t get a ‘get out of jail free card’ excuse to murder civilians.

especially when you are actively radicalizing civilians daily

Bombing them in refugee camps will do the same thing. That is, if they survive the bombing.

And they were speaking about how Israel would prefer to kill as many Palestinians as possible, and that Hamas is just their excuse for doing so.

I’m pretty sure this is a war. At least I’ve heard Israeli officials describe the current conflict as a war on Hamas. I don’t know of any war in which civilians aren’t negatively affected.

Israel can’t really stop fighting Hamas yet. According to the BBC, Hamas is still receiving new weapons via their tunnel system. They apparently also have an extensive weapons manufacturing system within Gaza itself.