In trials
Website I’ve never heard of: check
Wild claims that seem too good to be true: check
Little to no proof about said claims: check
Don’t get me wrong, this would be fantastic if it’s true. But I’m sceptical. It feels like all those articles about a cure for cancer that then never go anywhere.
Here’s the article that should have been posted, except of course that it’s a few months old and nothing new has been reported on it yet that I know of. https://pme.uchicago.edu/news/inverse-vaccine-shows-potential-treat-multiple-sclerosis-and-other-autoimmune-diseases
like the good ol r/science
this place is going doooown
I see it in google news all the time. spammy but I don’t see their ads. they gave references near the end.
Every science article is just a comment section disapproving the article. That’s why I stay away from these science communities, it’s all clickbait and lies
At the same time, commenters don’t necessarily know what the fuck they’re talking about either.
Yeah Reddit always had that problem, I think it’s here too - top rated comment is someone saying it won’t work and the article is wrong, everyone just accepts it without question.
I still see people using battery breakthrough stories as an example of stuff that never comes too market despite most of them being in the very phone the person is using.
I genuinely think a lot of them are just people who hate science and engineering so don’t want people to be interested in it
I genuinely think a lot of them are just people who hate science and engineering so don’t want people to be interested in it
So strange for those people to hang out in science communities in that case, to me.
a cat group I started the same time as this has 5k more subs and no whining. it is just cat pics. there are a lot of fake science sites to avoid but they all have bills to pay. they expect it to be like reddit junk and all. been to reddit through search results and sometimes found useful threads. mostly not.
Yeah, I think they come from the front page, I don’t think you see it as much on more obscure articles.
Looks at that… The one thing good about reddit was the /r/science sub, it was always full of moderator deleted comments that were off topic, factually incorrect, etc. posted articles actually were scientific reports and not clickbait crap lik this
Wait. I read above that this article is good. No?
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What’s bad is that it’s a good article. It covers things very well
okay then
If we assume for a moment that it works as advertised - what is it that makes this a vaccine? To me it sounds like a cure or treatment.
The creators call it an inverse vaccine. A vaccine causes the immune system to recognize a compound to attack. This treatment causes the immune system to ignore a compound it had previously recognized. So they are specifically saying it’s not a vaccine (and OP is misrepresenting them), even though that word is in the phrase, something roughly like antivenom is not a venom.
Thanks for the additional clarification!
It is not a cure for the reasons others in this thread have stated. It doesn’t repair damage already done, it only prevents the disease from advancing. That’s still a huge deal, though.
But when it comes to type 1 diabetes the cause is the body destroying beta cells in the pancreas and everything else is a symptom of that. If you can make the body “forget” killing beta cells (like the article states the anti-vaccine would, or rather teach the body to not kill) then it would make sense for the body to recover and repair the damage done.
Wouldn’t it then be a cure?
Yes, from what I know about type 1 diabetes is that once your immune system stops destroying your beta-cells, they regenerate. So that would solve your type 1 diabetes. And you’d have as big a chance of type 2 diabetes as the next guy. And isn’t that the dream 🙂 So 🤞
This sounds quite exciting and it doesn’t smell like bullshit.
Probably extremely affordable at 3 million a pop for 5 shots.
Easy hack. Get a bunch of more affordable health care services during the year until you reach your out-of-pocket max, then go in and get your 3 million worth of shots all on the insurance company’s dime with zero extra cost to you.
Or do this one first to max out your out-of-pocket with the one copay, everything else is “free” all year.
“” because you’re still paying premiums
Article from September. First I’m hearing of it…
In my understanding this could reverse the autoimmune reaction to Type 1 Diabetes not regrow the already killed β-cells.
That’s the way it reads, yes.
It would, if effective in human use, stop new damage, but not reverse existing damage.
I was wondering about that, curing Type 1 Diabetes would be a HELL of a breakthrough.
Curing it would lead to massive losses of a specific industry.
It really would. I fear that anything remotely close to a “cure” would be thwarted by pharma because they profit so much from insulin.
I switched jobs a few months ago, and had about 2 weeks without insurance. my insulin prescription was over $4k.
I know that “pharma” can’t just shut something down… but I’m sure there’s some loophole
Awesome, I have an autoimmune desease that can possibly paralyse me in future. I hope progress can continue 🙏
Sounds pretty advanced. I bet they won’t be able to activate the mind control chips until 6G cell services launch.
I was under the impression that we were 5G access points with the covid vaccine?
Was I lied to? I thought I was doing a service to the fellow terminally online.
What about Hashimoto’s thyroiditis and Graves’ disease?
Is this the “T1D cure in 10 years” I was promised 21 years ago?
Allergies also?
That is a different kind of immune response. It is not autoimmune, it is hyper responsive.
What about alopecia?
When this was posted before someone who followed it fairly closely and others like it, updated the thread with info because the article was behind current info. They had already stopped the trials for MS because it wasn’t working. So they began to just focus on one other, the Crohn’s, I believe. Figuring if they got one to work, they could go back to the others and get them on the right track.
I have MS, and while this is a new approach, there have been so many articles about treatments that end up going nowhere after the first excitement. So it is still very early to get hopes up.
Hope can be a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane, as Red said.
I took two doses of Pfizer Covid Vaccine and now I have a heart disease.
i like how people complain because they weren’t properly spoon fed curated articles selected specifically for them by someone who gaf. 1) be kind - is a reminder to myself
This comment isn’t kind, it’s obnoxious.
thanks for the reminder
